Off Topic General Election

Speaking to my Friend who lives in Sweden and works covering most of Scandanavia, he says that the right wing is massively on the rise.. Stockholm and Hellmadir will tell better of this if true.

 

Do you we really have to do the Nazi thing on here now ?

 

I'll fling in Diane Abbott just to make it a bit more taxing...

 

I look forward to moderate Labour MPs being gradually by far left ones who cannot get elected under their own banner and will get in through infiltration.

 

Ask the person who started calling people Nazis.

 

In that case you haven't really been paying any attention to what
Starmer has been doing to Labour

 

Before the thread shuts can I be the first to say Starmer out?

 

Things will change. Deselection committees will see to that over time. Momentum and all the far left lot have not gone away,

 

You can, but who would take his place...... the bint from Stockport...

 

FWIW I've been to a British Muslim wedding and found it to be an amazing cultural experience. I highly recommend it. It would certainly help you to break down some of those cultural barriers you clearly possess.

 

I'd be tempted if there was a free bar...

 

Well over to you sir flip flop... Let's see how long until your "won't raise taxes for working people" promise lasts. You've had absolutely no pressure to actually do anything since you took over labour and played the "captain hindsight" role very well. You're on the other side now and will actually have to do something, make decisions and keep to your promises. The bar is set so low fat you due to how bad the Tories ended their reign., Surly you can't be worse.....can you!

 

Ha! They made up for that with the food offerings and mocktails. It was a really refreshing change.

 

That will surprise the Pakistani Muslim neighbour I had in Hull to find out I have cultural barriers?

Was the Muslim marrying a Christian, an atheist, a white person or an Afro Caribbean one? Or another Muslim?

 

I can't speak so much for Sweden - Swedish Democrats are in government via the centre right coalition. But again, many of their policies aren't 'right' - stronger welfare state, mixed private/public economy, ability to vote against EU rulings. They're against further immigration, especially from out of Europe immigration and get around 25% of the public vote split across generations.

In Norway, FrP aren't seen as the 'far right' - this was put on them by media/commentators from outside of the country. They got into the last government under the coalition, but lost a lot of their support because they were unable to enact many of their promises or rolled back on them (much like the LDs did in the UK). Their economics is a bit more Thatcherite and laissez-faire. Their support hasn't recovered since they were in government - many made the protest vote and the main two parties took it on board, so no need for them so much at the moment. New parties are coming up and getting votes, plus local protest parties, but at this moment in time, Arbeiderpartiet are in power, nearest to Starmer's labour - centre with a focus on the public sector, and did what all Labour parties do - raise taxes slightly and then give it back via benefits/subsidies etc. The main issues now are inflation and weak currency, which are out the governments hands.

 

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He'd be surprised by your views or mine?

 

In spite of my political leanings, I really hope Starmer and Labour do a great job.
Why? Because I dread to think what the UK will be like if we see another 5 years of abject failure.

Having said that, serious question, can any leader or party succeed these days, even with such a massive majority, when we are so deeply divided on so many issues. The divisions exist not only within the UK population but even within parties themselves.
Immigration.
Gender
Climate
Brexit / EU
Religion / Culture / values
Gaza
etc etc.
And the continuing devolution (not just of countries, but now within countries) just makes for more divides.
There have always been differing views of course, but I can't recall the divides being so deep and so many as they are these days.

 

Why couldn’t there be? Muslims wouldn’t have to drink leaving more for non Muslims. But of course Muslims don’t make concessions to others whilst demanding concessions themselves.
Mind you, Muslim shopkeepers manage to have alcohol on their premises.

 

He would be surprised by your views suggesting I had a cultural barrier.