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Blond Bombshell said:
Sadiq Khan came across well there, Kier believes in hard work, vision, will be magnanimous tomorrow, being humble, demanding every labour MP serve with humility.
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That's the one thing about Starmer, I believe him. I'm not especially inspired by him, but the absolute worst case scenario of a Labour government under him is still one that works hard, has integrity and respects the people.

Best case scenario is that a lot of us have underestimated Starmer and with a clear majority, he can actually enact policy for the common good without worrying about in-fighting and Westminster politics.
 
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Flash Gordon said:
That's the one thing about Starmer, I believe him. I'm not especially inspired by him, but the absolute worst case scenario of a Labour government under him is still one that works hard, has integrity and respects the people.

Best case scenario is that a lot of us have underestimated Starmer and with a clear majority, he can actually enact policy for the common good without worrying about in-fighting and Westminster politics.
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Can’t say I’m massively enthused by Starmer but he’s managerial and businesslike and that alone is better than the unethical chaotic bluff of the last few years. Most worrying for me is the reform voice. The spam party.
Disappointed the greens haven’t picked up more than the tailored fascists Reform have, there are a lot of racists sadly, but glad the Lib Dem’s are also a significant voice.
 
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Pure River Slut said:
Can’t say I’m massively enthused by Starmer but he’s managerial and businesslike and that alone is better than the unethical chaotic bluff of the last few years. Most worrying for me is the reform voice. The spam party.
Disappointed the greens haven’t picked up more than the tailored fascists Reform have, there are a lot of racists sadly, but glad the Lib Dem’s are also a significant voice.
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Reform have largely succeeded due to a single issue in my opinion - immigration.

Labour need to tackle that issue. It's good that the Rwanda planes will be permanently grounded, but they have to get a competent system up and running. They can't be wishy-washy on that subject as it's clearly a priority for the electorate in my opinion.
 
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Flash Gordon said:
Reform have largely succeeded due to a single issue in my opinion - immigration.

Labour need to tackle that issue. It's good that the Rwanda planes will be permanently grounded, but they have to get a competent system up and running. They can't be wishy-washy on that subject as it's clearly a priority for the electorate in my opinion.
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They have to secure the borders. Cooperation with the EU has to be the way. At least Starmer won’t be xenophobic. I also think though that financial hardship and austerity is a factor for reform, life being harder and no hope means the finger gets pointed. A fairer settlement will help.
 
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Flash Gordon said:
My line for tonight is Rees-Mogg, Truss, McVey, Fabricant and Jenrick.

There's a whole load more that I'd like to see go too, but it'll be a very good night if they all lose.

Braverman and Patel losing along with Farage failing is too much to ask.
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3 out of 5 isn't too bad.

Mordaunt and Hunt are the biggest scalps and both very surprising to me. Mordaunt was the potential leader to make them respectable again in my opinion. I can only see them veering to the right from here.

Shapps, Keegan and Coffey all gone too.
 
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Lib Dems have had a great night, I'm happy about that.

The strength of their performance and that of reform, brings fptp into question. I doubt it'll be on the agenda in the early days of this government but it might become a topic before the next election.
 
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Flash Gordon said:
Lib Dems have had a great night, I'm happy about that.

The strength of their performance and that of reform, brings fptp into question. I doubt it'll be on the agenda in the early days of this government but it might become a topic before the next election.
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The number of Independents is interesting and the next referendum could be on NI as Sinn Féin’s a solid block against the split Unionist vote.
 
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