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If Reform have any aspirations to be a serious parliamentary party for years to come, they need better leaders than Farage and Tice and to vet their candidates better. Even compared to the other far-right parties in Europe, they’re kind of a joke. They’re too gimmicky, if that makes sense?
 
Kalman said:
If Reform have any aspirations to be a serious parliamentary party for years to come, they need better leaders than Farage and Tice and to vet their candidates better. Even compared to the other far-right parties in Europe, they’re kind of a joke. They’re too gimmicky, if that makes sense?
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thats exactly what they are though
thats what farage is

a joke
a gimmick
a grifter
a chancer
 
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i also think its disingenuous for the national rally in france to be labeled far right
 
Kalman said:
If Reform have any aspirations to be a serious parliamentary party for years to come, they need better leaders than Farage and Tice and to vet their candidates better. Even compared to the other far-right parties in Europe, they’re kind of a joke. They’re too gimmicky, if that makes sense?
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They're not a serious party are they. When you look at comparisons of the manifestos theirs is practically empty. It just doesn't touch upon loads of big issues because to them the only issues are immigration, the EU, etc. Just infantile politics.
 
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bradymk2 said:
thats exactly what they are though
thats what farage is

a joke
a gimmick
a grifter
a chancer
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Yeah, they’re just embarrassing. Even as someone who considers themselves a leftist, I can recognise that Le Pen, her protégé Bardella, Meloni and the AfD are serious, slick, professional, statesmanlike etc. and Farage with his cream suits and Union Jack ties just… isn’t. He’s a meme. A silly protest candidate with unrealistic policies because he knows he won’t be in power. Le Pen could be in power and her party are much more serious about what they want to do when in power.
 
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Kalman said:
If Reform have any aspirations to be a serious parliamentary party for years to come, they need better leaders than Farage and Tice and to vet their candidates better. Even compared to the other far-right parties in Europe, they’re kind of a joke. They’re too gimmicky, if that makes sense?
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Farage will be quite effective and entertaining bating this new Government in the house, however I'd like a more appealing leadership to grow Reform yes.
 
Kalman said:
Yeah, they’re just embarrassing. Even as someone who considers themselves a leftist, I can recognise that Le Pen, her protégé Bardella, Meloni and the AfD are serious, slick, professional, statesmanlike etc. and Farage with his cream suits and Union Jack ties just… isn’t.
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im a leftist in most things apart from the mass immigration which imo has made not only the UK, but europe far worse

i also want rich ****s properly taxxed, and social welfare to ensure no one should ever worry losing a job could mean they lose everything etc etc
and no one should have foodbanks in the first world
 
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So tories and reform were underestimated in the last polls, and the SNP and Lib dems over estimated.

It's still only comparing polls though.

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im a leftist in most things apart from the mass immigration which imo has made not only the UK, but europe far worse

i also want rich ****s properly taxxed, and social welfare to ensure no one should ever worry losing a job could mean they lose everything etc etc
and no one should have foodbanks in the first world
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Yeah, I stuck my head in the sand regarding immigration for ages because it was (and still is) a taboo topic in left-wing circles. But I can’t ignore it now. It’s gotten worse post-Brexit of all things.
 
I’d have voted for him


Count Binface - who is standing against Rishi Sunak in the election - coming to Hull on tour
The novelty election candidate will be bringing his unique take on Britain to the city
Mark Page
One of Britain's best-known novelty political figures, who is taking on Rishi Sunak in this week's General Election, will be heading on tour to Hull later this year.

Count Binface is an "intergalactic space warrior" who has appeared in the past three general elections, beaming his way into the constituencies of standing Prime Ministers with his "MEGA plans" to "Make Earth Great Again". He is currently a candidate going toe-to-toe with the Conservative leader in the Richmond and Northallerton seat, in North Yorkshire, with a manifesto pledging the likes of cheaper croissants, the nationalisation of Adele, Wi-Fi on trains "that works", the return of Ceefax, and to make "all water bosses take a dip in British rivers to see how they like it".

He also wants to ban loud snacks from cinema and theatres, make National Yorkshire Pudding Day a Bank Holiday, cap the price of 99 flakes to 99p, and make Claudia Winkleman's fringe Grade-I listed
He first took on Theresa May in the 2017 General Election, "cunningly disguised" as 'Lord Buckethead', and appeared on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver and at the Glastonbury Festival. He also ran to be Mayor of London in 2021 "in a bid to gain control of the Earth Capital itself", receiving 92,896 votes. He ran again this year and garnered 24,260 votes.

Following his General Election campaign, Binface will be heading on tour later this year, including a stop at Social, in Humber Street, Hull, from 7pm on Tuesday, September 17.
 
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So tories and reform were underestimated in the last polls, and the SNP and Lib dems over estimated.

It's still only comparing polls though.

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I got 9/2 on The Tories getting over 140 seats - still could come in.
 
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