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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
It's antisemitism Beth, plain and simple.

No, I don't really think it is, but you would think that having made these ridiculous attacks they might have backed off when they realised the Jewish angle. But no, in common with the shambolic nature of the whole Tory campaign, they just doubled down. Pathetic.

It’s a crap attack before people were informed of the reason behind it. For people to double down is abhorrent and pathetic. This thread being a classic example.
 
The Jewish angle has nothing to do with it. It's the inflexability that's suggested in what he said. I agree in practise he's highly unlikely to keep the evening safe in the event of a pressing matter - and a lot of pressing matters do seem to come last thing on a Friday. It's just the way it looks. He put his foot in his mouth. It happens. We move on...

FYI...

Saturday morning gym trip and Church at home on Sundays - the two unmovable events in Theresa May's diary | The Sun

I really don't think Starmer's put his foot in his mouth at all. It's inconsequential really, but if anything it'll win him more votes than it costs him.
 
FYI...

Saturday morning gym trip and Church at home on Sundays - the two unmovable events in Theresa May's diary | The Sun

I really don't think Starmer's put his foot in his mouth at all. It's inconsequential really, but if anything it'll win him more votes than it costs him.

There's a difference between an aide responsible for organising May's diary indicating it, and Starmer announcing to the nation that come what may, he won't be at the helm on Friday nights. I doubt he meant it. It came out wrong
 
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They partied , they bet on elections , they crashed the economy, they broke every public service, they destroyed integrity and honesty in public office , they paid their mates billions , they put their friends in the House of Lords, they gave their cronies knighthoods, they went into the jungle , they lied again and again, they were convicted by police, they went on holiday when they shouldn’t and they have the cheek to question Keir Starmer’s work ethic. I would never take anything for granted but I hope they are annihilated on Thursday. The worst people and government we have ever had!

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They partied , they bet on elections , they crashed the economy, they broke every public service, they destroyed integrity and honesty in public office , they paid their mates billions , they put their friends in the House of Lords, they gave their cronies knighthoods, they went into the jungle , they lied again and again, they were convicted by police, they went on holiday when they shouldn’t and they have the cheek to question Keir Starmer’s work ethic. I would never take anything for granted but I hope they are annihilated on Thursday. The worst people and government we have ever had!

Gary Neville on X

Can’t disagree or argue with much of that.

However, let’s hope it’s not a case of words like ‘frying’, ‘pan’ and ‘fire’

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The blanket 20mph speed limits - I’ve read that there is up to a £9 billion cost burden to the Welsh economy as a result of this measure. It’s not as if the Welsh economy can afford that!

NHS Wales is worse on most measures than in England.

Average wage is below that of Scotland, yet was equal at time of Devolution.

The First Minister lost a vote of confidence yet refused to step down.

Wales has the highest business rates of anywhere in Britain, made worse by the Welsh Government’s recent decision to reduce business rates support from 75% to 40%.

Is this something that you want copied in England, as Starmer has stated time and again that he intends doing?

I really, really do hope that the quality of Labour MPs and the policies and decision making of a Labour Government in Westminster will be far superior to what we have in Wales<cheers>
 
Can’t disagree or argue with much of that.

However, let’s hope it’s not a case of words like ‘frying’, ‘pan’ and ‘fire’

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The blanket 20mph speed limits - I’ve read that there is up to a £9 billion cost burden to the Welsh economy as a result of this measure. It’s not as if the Welsh economy can afford that!

NHS Wales is worse on most measures than in England.

Average wage is below that of Scotland, yet was equal at time of Devolution.

The First Minister lost a vote of confidence yet refused to step down.

Wales has the highest business rates of anywhere in Britain, made worse by the Welsh Government’s recent decision to reduce business rates support from 75% to 40%.

Is this something that you want copied in England, as Starmer has stated time and again that he intends doing?

I really, really do hope that the quality of Labour MPs and the policies and decision making of a Labour Government in Westminster will be far superior to what we have in Wales<cheers>

And, sadly, the educational standards in both Wales and Scotland have dropped compared to England

PS sorry! just seen what was at the top of your post!!
 
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Can’t disagree or argue with much of that.

However, let’s hope it’s not a case of words like ‘frying’, ‘pan’ and ‘fire’

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The blanket 20mph speed limits - I’ve read that there is up to a £9 billion cost burden to the Welsh economy as a result of this measure. It’s not as if the Welsh economy can afford that!

NHS Wales is worse on most measures than in England.

Average wage is below that of Scotland, yet was equal at time of Devolution.

The First Minister lost a vote of confidence yet refused to step down.

Wales has the highest business rates of anywhere in Britain, made worse by the Welsh Government’s recent decision to reduce business rates support from 75% to 40%.

Is this something that you want copied in England, as Starmer has stated time and again that he intends doing?

I really, really do hope that the quality of Labour MPs and the policies and decision making of a Labour Government in Westminster will be far superior to what we have in Wales<cheers>

The Welsh government is reliant on the UK government for 80% of its funding. I suspect that the Tory UK government has been less than generous towards the Labour administration in Wales. They've also failed to replace lost EU funding....

Written Statement: Loss of funding to Wales as a result of the UK Government’s arrangements for replacement EU funding (4 May 2022) | GOV.WALES
 
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The Welsh government is reliant on the UK government for 80% of its funding. I suspect that the Tory UK government has been less than generous towards the Labour administration in Wales. They've also failed to replace lost EU funding....

Written Statement: Loss of funding to Wales as a result of the UK Government’s arrangements for replacement EU funding (4 May 2022) | GOV.WALES
Speaking of losing EU funding. I've been working at a farm this week and Brexit has really ****ed this industry. The farmer voted for it aswell. He said they are shutting down the dairy side due to red tape and that without the EU subsidies, farming has no profit in this country at all. Prices will go up, checks on standards down and shelves more bare. Stupid **** for believing the crap.
 
The Welsh government is reliant on the UK government for 80% of its funding. I suspect that the Tory UK government has been less than generous towards the Labour administration in Wales. They've also failed to replace lost EU funding....

Written Statement: Loss of funding to Wales as a result of the UK Government’s arrangements for replacement EU funding (4 May 2022) | GOV.WALES
Don’t forget that for the first 11 years of Devolution there was a Labour Government in Westminster. <ok>

There has been a noticeable trend here - when things go well, it’s down to Cardiff Bay. When things go badly, it’s all Westminster’s fault.

The Welsh Government decides how / where the money is spent, and in addition to the block grant, part of the budget is funded from money raised from devolved taxes. The Welsh Government can also access limited amounts of borrowing.

I’ve voted both Labour and Conservative in the past - Labour mostly - but I am not voting this time around as I’ve no faith in either of the two main parties
 
The Welsh government is reliant on the UK government for 80% of its funding. I suspect that the Tory UK government has been less than generous towards the Labour administration in Wales. They've also failed to replace lost EU funding....

Written Statement: Loss of funding to Wales as a result of the UK Government’s arrangements for replacement EU funding (4 May 2022) | GOV.WALES

That's down to Covid and furlough, and has affected most of the world. Labour have been a disaster in Wales, particularly for the kids. Scots are probably worse
 
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Speaking of losing EU funding. I've been working at a farm this week and Brexit has really ****ed this industry. The farmer voted for it aswell. He said they are shutting down the dairy side due to red tape and that without the EU subsidies, farming has no profit in this country at all. Prices will go up, checks on standards down and shelves more bare. Stupid **** for believing the crap.
not a very good business model then

only makes a profit depending on subsidies