Off Topic Politics Thread

Jamie Raskin always impresses me when he speaks.

 

It’s not as simple as that. It’s how it’s phrased and pitched. Most of the rhetoric seems specifically aimed at the Muslims who come in. Even if it is just aimed at any immigrant to the country

 

It seems to be a moot point because it requires Biden voluntarily stepping down and it doesn’t seem like he will. Unless more people have words over the weekend. But you would have thought said words would have been had after the debate and/or the next morning. Instead the democrats declared him the winner, Obama has come out in support and he did a PR bit where he brushed it off and didn’t step down.

The latter is the real issue - he knew there was a problem but didn’t really make it better.

 

His doctor, who happens to be his wife, is probably the one best placed to have a word in his ear. He might just listen to her. It’s going to be a very difficult conversation but for the the sake of pretty much the whole world, it needs to be done soon.

 

Newsome has been pretty bad for California. Thousands have moved to Florida for better living conditions, salary and start-up conditions. Crime rate is off the scale too. Not really sure what all the hype is about but I’d like to understand.

 

62% voted to keep him as governor in 2021 despite the issues. I don’t necessarily think he would make a good President, just that pretty much anyone with half a brain has got to be better than either Orange Manchild or Biden.

 

Totally agree. Just curious as to how he seems to have inherited the prodigal son reputation. Maybe you’re right, it’s just the total dearth of other talent.

 

RFK Jr will probably get some more exposure now. Unsure what to make of him because it seemed like he was running to split the Democrat vote, but could now be more significant.

 

He’s an absolute arse of a man.

 

That's not ruled out many presidential candidates. Another clown at the circus but still significant.

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/oddlyterri.../american_presidentials_debates_2012_vs_2024/

This is as funny as it is depressing

 

Decency went out of politics when populism came in. Can you imagine John Major behaving like the bullying lout Boris Johnson?

Trump and Biden are two old men who should know better.

 

Yep, there's no doubt he is a decent man but we desperately need a competent Democrat in the White House for the next 4 years for the World's sake.

 

It is as simple as that. If you even raise the slightest concern about immigration numbers/policy, you are instantly called racist. This is why people that support Farage (and yes-Trump) continue to support them despite all the racist/misogyny labels. These words are now completely meaningless. They have become buzz words used to silence political opinions.

My hatred of mass immigration policy has absolutely zero to do with race. It has everything to do with stopping the pressure on already crumbling infrastructure and how we handle things here.

I will absolutely be open for more immigration and helping more refugees etc. once we sort out the issues with this country and construct a more sensible approach.

For me, a good analogy of our current immigration policy is letting a crackhead adopt some children.

We HAVE to fix Great Britain. Then we can worry about everything else. But until we fix this country, it’s crazy to consider helping more. Especially when we are losing our own national identity in the process.

 

Exactly Jabbo.. these numbers are ****ing huge. Absolutely huge. Working tax payers are having to foot the bill for a massive amount of people - and it grows every single day.

And you can ignore the forecast of a decline because it’s a massive lie. Just like all government forecasts.

 

“a vegetable puppet president is better than someone who’s policies I don’t like”.

Do you understand how radicalised you have to be to present an opinion like this?

A president is required to make snap decisions that impact millions of people. You cannot have someone in the hot seat that can’t think and ****s his pants. It’s absolutely unbelievable to me that you can write this sentence.

It would be better to have the worst competent leader imaginable than someone who legitimately can’t make any decisions because they are mentally unable to.

 

You can’t read can you? Why must you be so disingenuous with every post. It really is just trolling now. You basically made up a quote despite quoting my post. That’s just ridiculous. I did not mention my opinion on Trump’s policies - notably because he doesn’t really have any. I said he was an incoherent lunatic who sucks up to authoritarian rulers rather than scares them as his fans claim. I guess if you consider bowing and scraping before America’s rivals a “policy” then yes I do disagree with that. But that isn’t what I said

You are just becoming a clown now. I know you’ve never really made any attempt to address the critiques people raise against you point - choosing to completely ignore what people say (especially when what is said proves you completely wrong with facts and studies). But this is just silly because you are making up what I said and then arguing against it. That’s pure bad faith

 

So - we believe the high numbers as absolute gospel. But must ignore when they go down because those are a lie. It’s a clown world you live in

 

Oh look - you once again have ignored the post you replied to and are replying to something else. It’s getting boring now. I don’t actually care about why you hate immigration. At all. That wasn’t what my post was about. It was about how the argument Reform are making and how the way they pitch it is racist. It doesn’t matter that you don’t think your opinion on the issue is racist or not. I know you are king troll on here but it isn’t actually all about you

I really did think it was obvious that my point was that it doesn’t matter how good most of the points made about the high numbers are (including those in this reply of yours) when the rhetoric is overwhelming focused on being anti Muslim specifically. It undermines the points being made because it reveals what is likely the true reasons for at least a lot of these people

Oh and despite your claims - “we are in the process of losing our national identity” is just a euphemism for “there are fewer white people than I think there should be”. Perhaps you didn’t know that. But that is what that means