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<laugh> ... would they be the same rules that mean only 4 or 5 clubs (already up there amongst the richest) can carry on spending what they like with impunity? ... that'll make football more competitive for sure ... well at least between those 4 or 5 <doh>

No Flossy.

That's exactly why there are 115 charges against City.

You’re not really in a position to be levelling accusations at just the Top 4/5 as lesser clubs like yours are guilty of breaking financial rules too.

And in fact out of the Top 5 this season. It’s only Man City who are accused of breaking financial rules.

Just to clear that up for you <ok>
 
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It's not so much that it's illegal, but there are rules in place in football to try and make it competitive. So the same rules don't apply to ordinary commercial companies because they are operating in a free market economy and not a sporting context.

I suppose the closet thing to it in commercial law is the monopolies and mergers act. Which tries to ensure that businesses don't gain an unfair advantage by squashing the competition.

City signed up to the same rules as everybody else, but they've deliberately flouted them to gain a sporting advantage. Financial doping.
Rules exist in football to try and make it competitive... That's a good one :) - I agree, that rules should be in place to do that, but currently, they don't have that aim or outcome.

The thing City are challenging is the tightening of related party sponsorship rules that were brought in to stifle Newcastle. Their charge sheet still stands. PSR etc and the 115 charges are not related to the AP clamp down, as it happened after all those events.
 
Some folk still whinging about Arsenal from 124 years ago <laugh>

But City didn't know the rules from the last few years so they are the victims lol

Some cuck ****e going on in here like.

Only because you constantly talk about earning success "on the pitch" but support the only PL club who's place in the division wasn't earned in that way.

I've no idea what cuck even means tbh. I'm not arsed about City in the slightest though.
 
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Only because you constantly talk about earning success "on the pitch" but support the only PL club who's place in the division wasn't earned in that way.

I've no idea what cuck even means tbh. I'm not arsed about City in the slightest though.

It was over a century ago mate. I think Arsenal have proved since then that they’ve earned their success on the pitch
 
It was 124 years ago mate. I think Arsenal have proved since then that they’ve earned their success on the pitch
So when do City, Chelsea etc get to claim that then?
Whats the Pinkie statute of limitations on corruption?
 
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So when do City, Chelsea etc get to claim that then?
Whats the Pinkie statute of limitations on corruption?

Not saying it wasn’t corrupt at the time. I’m saying that given that it was over a century ago, Arsenal have long since proved their success on the pitch.

You chavs we’re just a yo yo club like City before the sugar daddies bought your pots mate :)
 
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Not saying it wasn’t corrupt at the time. I’m saying that given that it was over a century ago, Arsenal have long since proved their success on the pitch.

You chavs we’re just a yo yo club like City before the sugar daddies bought your pots mate :)
Y'all werent even a football league club before you bribed your way in.
And Abramovich was over 20 years ago, so I ask again, whats the statute of limitations on it?
 
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It was over a century ago mate. I think Arsenal have proved since then that they’ve earned their success on the pitch

But you didn't initially did you? You're the only premier league club who didn't win promotion via their results on the pitch. Your place was gained by your financial clout rather than your on pitch success which means you had a huge unfair advantage. This is absolutely fact mate and not up for debate.

Which is the point. You constantly argue that City's success is meaningless due to it all being caused by questionable funding - which is more than a reasonable point for what it's worth imo.

But isn't Arsenal exactly the same? Without buying your way to the top division you wouldn't have been in a position to win the league titles you did which increased your stature.

What's the difference exactly?
 
The thing that worries me the most right now is nothing to do with FFP I'm just worried that if we have a good start we'll be referred to as the Slot Machine.

Everyone has different worries though I suppose.

Hear that. I'm worried that we might be quite decent next season and we won't get relegated.
 
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my understanding is it's 3 charges for historically back-dating 3 sponsorship deals to the tune of around 30m around 2014, and 112 charges relating to stalling on supplying documents.
Manchester City - 115 FFP Charges
Type of breachNumber of charges relating to breachDate of trial Date of decision

Failure to provide accurate and up-to-date financial information from 2009-10 to 2017-18 - QTY 54
Failure to provide accurate financial reports for player and manager compensation from 2009-10 to 2017-18 - QTY 14
Failure to comply with UEFA's regulations, including UEFA's Club and Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations - QTY 5
Breaches of Premier League profitability and sustainability regulations from 2015-16 to and including 2017-18 season - QTY 7
Failure to cooperate with Premier League investigations from December 2018-present - QTY 35
 
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But you didn't initially did you? You're the only premier league club who didn't win promotion via their results on the pitch. Your place was gained by your financial clout rather than your on pitch success which means you had a huge unfair advantage. This is absolutely fact mate and not up for debate.

Which is the point. You constantly argue that City's success is meaningless due to it all being caused by questionable funding - which is more than a reasonable point for what it's worth imo.

But isn't Arsenal exactly the same? Without buying your way to the top division you wouldn't have been in a position to win the league titles you did which increased your stature.

What's the difference exactly?
About 150 years
 
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Manchester City - 115 FFP Charges
Type of breachNumber of charges relating to breachDate of trial Date of decision

Failure to provide accurate and up-to-date financial information from 2009-10 to 2017-18 - QTY 54
Failure to provide accurate financial reports for player and manager compensation from 2009-10 to 2017-18 - QTY 14
Failure to comply with UEFA's regulations, including UEFA's Club and Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations - QTY 5
Breaches of Premier League profitability and sustainability regulations from 2015-16 to and including 2017-18 season - QTY 7
Failure to cooperate with Premier League investigations from December 2018-present - QTY 35
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