1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. THE SCOUT

    THE SCOUT New Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2024
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    2
    I'm reffering to whoever is employed as the "Head Coach"
     
    #15001
  2. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    17,784
    Likes Received:
    45,802
    it’s all us fans generating it as well. Nothing from the media or the club. Just fans getting each other excited or angry
     
    #15002
  3. SourPatch2

    SourPatch2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2024
    Messages:
    7,452
    Likes Received:
    19,864
    Even Pep, for me one of the greatest to ever do it, isn't in control of recruitment at City. Tuchel said while he was Chelsea boss he wanted nothing to do with recruitment and just wanted to coach.

    Why some of our fans can't grasp that football has moved on from one man doing everything within a club I have no idea.
     
    #15003
  4. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2021
    Messages:
    25,261
    Likes Received:
    35,968
    Yep, we’ll never know exactly what has or hasn’t gone on but I feel the club will get plenty of stick if it isn’t Still now.
     
    #15004
  5. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2019
    Messages:
    6,889
    Likes Received:
    12,597
    Aye but there has to be confidence in the approach. What would Tuchel think of Burstow and Hemir?
     
    #15005
  6. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2021
    Messages:
    25,261
    Likes Received:
    35,968
    He’d be of the same opinion as me - ****e
     
    #15006
  7. Dunder Mifflin

    Dunder Mifflin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2019
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    6,161
    The club aren’t helping mind with all this mass hysteria being caused by the amount of time it’s taking.

    Find someone they want, interview them, negotiate and appoint them.
     
    #15007
    Mr Tickle, Daz, jpdsafc and 1 other person like this.
  8. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2015
    Messages:
    8,181
    Likes Received:
    15,883
    There's a definite resistance to some now pretty well established concepts.
     
    #15008
    Culinary and SourPatch2 like this.
  9. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2021
    Messages:
    25,261
    Likes Received:
    35,968
    I do agree there like. 100 days since Beale was sacked, it’s pathetic.
     
    #15009
    Mr Tickle and Dunder Mifflin like this.
  10. Wheatsheaf

    Wheatsheaf Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2020
    Messages:
    580
    Likes Received:
    4,798
    Have you jumped on to leave a little message to manage expectations from the club?

    Will Still was always who KLD wanted...

    Our model will only suit certain types of managers..heard it could happen...i thought we had our man...

    Lets see what happens
     
    #15010
    Dorset, TonyG and Young Ted like this.

  11. Dunder Mifflin

    Dunder Mifflin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2019
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    6,161
    They should’ve been ready to go once the season was done, nearly 4 weeks since Sheff Wed game and nothing has progressed.

    not a good look.
     
    #15011
  12. Scootsie

    Scootsie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2020
    Messages:
    1,859
    Likes Received:
    4,510
    #15012
  13. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2020
    Messages:
    17,784
    Likes Received:
    45,802
    Devils advocate but they may have done this, and are being patient with Still, who is the one slowing things down.

    on one hand I’d applaud the patience for waiting to get their man. But it’s a risky strategy if he then changes his mind.

    my point being that I don’t think it’s necessarily the club who are dragging their heels.
     
    #15013
    BRMC, Culinary and The Norton Cat like this.
  14. LD19SAFC

    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2021
    Messages:
    25,261
    Likes Received:
    35,968
    I agree. I don’t really wanna get into it too much but I currently have very little faith in the club, especially with Speakman still here.
     
    #15014
  15. J Flash

    J Flash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2020
    Messages:
    1,815
    Likes Received:
    4,506
    I noticed earlier in the thread you mentioning about no media coverage on Still to Sunderland (god knows how many pages back now :emoticon-0102-bigsm) but I think it was a good point. Im not dismissing posters who have been told it's imminent, nor am i saying the media is the be all and end all but it is surprising if it was imminent that not one reputable media source has mentioned anything about it. The only relatively reputable sources we've seen re Still, was Romano who didnt mention SAFC and Lequipe who linked him with another club.

    Must say, I am starting to feel doubtful on Still, ready for an appointment now like, getting a bit too close to pre season for me.
     
    #15015
  16. Magnus

    Magnus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2019
    Messages:
    2,483
    Likes Received:
    16,233
    so just get this right, you've watched this for donks, claiming we are all posting false information' could of posted a couple of days ago when it first got mentioned it was sorted to then only post after the links to still and lens ?
     
    #15016
    Dorset, Iain, Scout73 and 10 others like this.
  17. Daz

    Daz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2019
    Messages:
    4,632
    Likes Received:
    12,347
    Well this has took a bit of a turn! A new member joining with pretty specific details, which if true wouldn’t surprise me one bit. Rumours that Lens are looking to appoint Still and complete silence from the club 100 days after we sacked our last head coach.

    Im just going to wait and see what happens but it’s becoming very tiring and you can understand why fans are worried.

    Saying that I’d be 100% wanting guarantees on the type of player we bring in after this season and the obvious shortcomings in the squad.
     
    #15017
  18. SourPatch2

    SourPatch2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2024
    Messages:
    7,452
    Likes Received:
    19,864
    You can say the same about duds managers have signed for the club, giving a manager power in recruitment doesn't necessarily mean you will sign good players.

    I have no confidence in Speakman, but I do not want the approach or the system to change I want a new DoF.

    And despite my opinions on Speakman, I think a prospective head coach would also look at signings like Clarke, Ballard, Hume and the work that's been done within the academy and think that the approach and setup is actually good.
     
    #15018
  19. Wheatsheaf

    Wheatsheaf Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2020
    Messages:
    580
    Likes Received:
    4,798
    **** it..Dodds in..
     
    #15019
  20. Culinary

    Culinary Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2021
    Messages:
    2,330
    Likes Received:
    6,214
    This is my main issue with all this ITK stuff. A lot of it's no where near the mark (that's not a slight on anyone posting, I'm sure they're doing so in good faith) and when it fails to materialise the easiest out is to blame the club, then because of their cult like following people will take that as gospel as they have everything leading up to it.

    Take the Maric thing, there's no evidence whatsoever that we were talking to him this time around, in fact quite the opposite. Then when it doesn't happen it's because the club 'did the dirty on him' and 'reneged on an agreement to pursue Still'.

    It's possibly similar with Still, no sniff of talks in the media despite everyman and his dog on Sunderland message boards seemingly knowing what's happening, then when it doesn't happen the line will be that the club ****ed it up, not that he was never that close in the first place. If he's not that close in the first place there could be any number of reasons why, not all of them necessarily mean the club are in the wrong.

    I appreciate faith and trust has been damaged with the Beale appointment, I know mine has, but they've got it right with their other appointments so I don't think the pitchforks are necessarily needed just because Still ends up at Lens (who are a good club in a higher league and in Europe).
     
    #15020

Share This Page