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The training ground and infrastructure thing is long overdue but I feel like it’s a longer-term thing whereas transfers are a much more pressing issue in the short-term.
 
Kalman said:
The training ground and infrastructure thing is long overdue but I feel like it’s a longer-term thing whereas transfers are a much more pressing issue in the short-term.
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They always will be
As the whole club is run on a very short termism basis
 
balkan tiger said:
"If we don’t make the play offs next season it’ll have to be seen as a failure"
At the moment we don't know who will be playing for us, so making predictions of where we should finish in the league is a bit presumptuous. For now all the good loanees are going back so we will have a weaker team, I hope we will buy and loan some good or even better players but who knows?
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That wasn't really my point. I think if Rosenior was here, regardless of the players that come in or go out this summer - people would have expected him to be in the top 6 at least.

If that also doesn't happen under a new manager - I think that people will see that as a failure. Getting a new manager is a gamble. Obviously there was no guarantee that Rosenior would have got us in the play offs (at least), but if Walter doesn't do that either - then I think its fair to say that the change won't have worked for the better.
 
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Drew said:
That wasn't really my point. I think if Rosenior was here, regardless of the players that come in or go out this summer - people would have expected him to be in the top 6 at least.

If that also doesn't happen under a new manager - I think that people will see that as a failure. Getting a new manager is a gamble. Obviously there was no guarantee that Rosenior would have got us in the play offs (at least), but if Walter doesn't do that either - then I think its fair to say that the change won't have worked for the better.
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Talk about stating the obvious.
 
Drew said:
That wasn't really my point. I think if Rosenior was here, regardless of the players that come in or go out this summer - people would have expected him to be in the top 6 at least.

If that also doesn't happen under a new manager - I think that people will see that as a failure. Getting a new manager is a gamble. Obviously there was no guarantee that Rosenior would have got us in the play offs (at least), but if Walter doesn't do that either - then I think its fair to say that the change won't have worked for the better.
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I still think people will look at the players we have/get and base their expectations on that.
 
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balkan tiger said:
I still think people will look at the players we have/get and base their expectations on that.
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I accept that, but at the same time - the pro-Rosenior people will point to the 'project' of the last couple of years being disrupted if we don't challenge.

And the people who were anti-Rosenior who were frustrated at not being in the top 6, surely that's not going to go away?

Either way - the change of manager will be judged on what happens this season. Its put more pressure on getting it right.
 
Tickton Tiger. said:
He and the commercial team have done very well to fill the stadium again. He reminds me of Don Robinson. He, too, came along when the club was in the doldrums and support was sparse and he increased the gates simply by talking the club up and presenting a positive attitude. I don't think he invested a lot, certainly not in the stadium, which we owned, or in players, and he too sacked a manager ( Brian Horton) in similar circumstances to Acun. Robinson threw the towel in soon afterwards.
Personally I don't see much actual investment in the team from Acun. The increase in gate receipts and the add on's must go some way into funding the loan players we had last season? Not forgetting £17m also came in within days of him buying the club from the sale of KLP. Of course we don't know how that money was divided, indeed, if at all? or how much reflected what Acun actually paid for the club?
So for me, the real investment comes this season (hopefully) Players first, then in bricks and mortar, but for anyone to think Acun and his team are here because they suddenly fell in love with Hull City and not because they saw a huge business opportunity is extremely naive.
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He reminds me of Don Robinson too, I posted that here a few weeks ago. I'm not sure he will stick around if this German bloke can't get us up, despite how nice he is to the locals What more can we offer him when he can go anywhere else he wants to be entertained and not at his own expense. I thought it was telling that when Rosy was sacked he was watching PSG, probably giving him the attacking football he needs to see.
 
Tickton Tiger. said:
He and the commercial team have done very well to fill the stadium again. He reminds me of Don Robinson. He, too, came along when the club was in the doldrums and support was sparse and he increased the gates simply by talking the club up and presenting a positive attitude. I don't think he invested a lot, certainly not in the stadium, which we owned, or in players, and he too sacked a manager ( Brian Horton) in similar circumstances to Acun. Robinson threw the towel in soon afterwards.
Personally I don't see much actual investment in the team from Acun. The increase in gate receipts and the add on's must go some way into funding the loan players we had last season? Not forgetting £17m also came in within days of him buying the club from the sale of KLP. Of course we don't know how that money was divided, indeed, if at all? or how much reflected what Acun actually paid for the club?
So for me, the real investment comes this season (hopefully) Players first, then in bricks and mortar, but for anyone to think Acun and his team are here because they suddenly fell in love with Hull City and not because they saw a huge business opportunity is extremely naive.
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No one's said he isn't here to make money? He hasn't made much though..
 
Kalman said:
The training ground and infrastructure thing is long overdue but I feel like it’s a longer-term thing whereas transfers are a much more pressing issue in the short-term.
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This was my point though. It'll always be a long term thing unless someone gets started on it.
 
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