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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
peter1954qpr said:
I traditionally vote Tory,
I made my money under a Thatcher/ Major government, managed to keep some of it under a Blair government when Brown tried to tax us to death,recovered under a Cameron led Tory government & despite not agreeing with Brexit accepted the majority voted for it, I believe Rishi Sunak being a money man will have a better grip on the country's finances than Keir Starmer who doesn't seem to commit to anything.
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Yes, Labour appears to be funding their many expensive projects by a non-dom tax and putting VAT on private school fees. Which is nonsense, of course, so rising taxes are inevitable under Labour. The wealthy are pretty well soaked already, so it will be the middle classes that bear the brunt.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Yes, Labour appears to be funding their many expensive projects by a non-dom tax and putting VAT on private school fees. Which is nonsense, of course, so rising taxes are inevitable under Labour. The wealthy are pretty well soaked already, so it will be the middle classes that bear the brunt.
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Traditionally under a Labour government the old favourite tax & spend will be their mantra I can't see that changing under Keir Starmer
 
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Stroller said:
That's actually a rather good post. Immigration has always been a positive thing for the UK and any political party that promises to reduce it to the tens of thousands a year whilst growing the economy at the same time is just lying to the electorate. The racists and xenophobes should be called out for what they are. The best solution, both for economic growth and for the immigration issue, is to rejoin the Single Market and return to free movement within the EU. But of course no political party dare say that right now.
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Legal immigration has always been a positive thing for the UK
How many illegals would you allow in
 
Stroller said:
It's certainly happened over the last fourteen years.
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Please provide facts. It just seems to me one of those things one trots out as fact when it’s really just perception. Who, for instance, is included in “the rich” and “the poor”. What is “rich”, what is “poor” and against what metrics? Is this metric itself changing every year? I can’t be bothered to do the research, but don’t wholly believe the conventional wisdom.
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
Please provide facts. It just seems to me one of those things one trots out as fact when it’s really just perception. Who, for instance, is included in “the rich” and “the poor”. What is “rich”, what is “poor” and against what metrics? Is this metric itself changing every year? I can’t be bothered to do the research, but don’t wholly believe the conventional wisdom.
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Starter
The most commonly used definition of poverty in the UK is a relative measure: poverty is defined as having a household income (adjusted for family size) which is less than 60% of median income. This is one of the agreed international measures used throughout the European Union.

https://ifs.org.uk/articles/income-and-wealth-inequality-explained-5-charts
Inequality seemed to grow most under Thatcher

Other stuff. Top 10% doing ok!
https://equalitytrust.org.uk/how-has-inequality-changed
 
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sb_73 said:
Starter
The most commonly used definition of poverty in the UK is a relative measure: poverty is defined as having a household income (adjusted for family size) which is less than 60% of median income. This is one of the agreed international measures used throughout the European Union.

https://ifs.org.uk/articles/income-and-wealth-inequality-explained-5-charts
Inequality seemed to grow most under Thatcher
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On that basis, those suffering poverty in Monaco, are multi-millionaires, as opposed to multi,multi millionaires and billionaires. Let's have a whip-round for them
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
On that basis, those suffering poverty in Monaco, are multi-millionaires, as opposed to multi,multi millionaires and billionaires. Let's have a whip-round for them
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You’re the expert in moral relativity, fill your boots. If your definition of an equal society is the top10% having 35% of the wealth while the bottom 50% have 20%, fine. I’m just doing some research for Uber. Xx
 
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Gove the latest Tory to announce that he won't be standing for re-election. Seems all the rats are leaving, which is a shame because there could have been a lot of 'Portillo moments' which will now be denied to us.
 
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Stroller said:
Gove the latest Tory to announce that he won't be standing for re-election. Seems all the rats are leaving, which is a shame because there could have been a lot of 'Portillo moments' which will now be denied to us.
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They haven’t got a candidate to stand against Corbyn (IND) yet.
 
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