Wonder if this season for Arteta will be his Pochettino 2016-17 ??
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TBH I do suspect that if one of his players gets poached by a monied club it will begin a spiral in a similar manner to what happened when Walker got tapped-up
Obvious question is whose head could potentially get turned, and which club could afford it as most of their key players are contracted until 2027
It’s funny you say this because I think there’s been a fair few similarities between our 16/17 side and this current Arsenal team.
Team has come along nicely after a few years and understand their teammates and system almost perfectly.
Home grown star stealing the headlines.
Scandinavian chief creator.
Signed a great DM to shore up the midfield.
Time will tell. Honestly though, if we don't win anything by May 2025, then I think these comparisons will be spot on. I remember during that 2016-2019 period where you guys on here were saying you felt the team that Poch had built were too good to not win anything and I feel that way about Arsenal currently. Yet, despite us being as good as we are, we're still not winning any silverware.
The only thing which is different is that I feel like KSE will always financially support Arteta in the market, whereas Pochettino didn't have this from Levy. And it remains to be seen whether Ange will now, too.
Hope so although it’s not over yet.
City draw and Arsenal win then they’re champions so not even far fetched to think it could happen.
FWIW I think City will get the job done on Sunday.
My musings are whether this is the peak PL season
under Arteta, and from now on there will be a slow decline.
The difference is that Arteta has had 2 PL titles to lose,
while Pochettino did not.
Well, unless they are about to play at Wembley for two years and not sign anyone during most of that time, it would be tenuous at best to draw any comparisons.
If anything, should Arsenal fail again next year, they should be judged much more harshly for that failure than Poch ever was, as the circumstances surrounding them are so much more favourable.
I’m not sure we’ll see a ‘decline’ just yet given our squad is still relatively young and we will be looking to spend significantly this Summer too (if rumours are to be believed).
However, I do think players may start to lose faith in the ‘project’ and seek pastures new the longer we don’t win trophies.
There’s no doubt about our progression and improvement on and off the field, but silverware needs to arrive soon.
Poch didn’t fail with you. I get it’s gutting to not have won anything with that peak Spurs team, but he overachieved considering:
a) the hand he was dealt with in terms of stadium move, resources and ownership decisions.
b) the fact he was competing with two oil clubs, a resurgent Liverpool team and an Arsenal and Man Utd team who were still financially more powerful than he was at Spurs.
His time at PSG and Chelsea won’t be kind regarding how he’s perceived as a manager by the masses (recency bias, expectations etc), but he did a superb job at Tottenham overall.
Spurs did not win the PL in 2016-17 because the
manager and squad were not strong enough to
deal with UEFA land distractions which the Conte
opposition did not have to suffer.
There's an argument the previous season's title challenge ironically bit us that season
Thanks to Mark Clusterfuck showing just what a good event coordinator he was at Stamford Bridge, we started the next season without Dembele (due to an unseen incident Clusterfuck was looking directly at when it happened) that saw us slower out of the blocks that we'd have liked, plus that also allowed a Narrative to be written which added pressure to the team since hacks and pundits alike would spend day after day talking about the team's mentality in the buildup to matches against any of their darlings, most obviously ahead of that season's trip to Stamford Bridge - which usually ignored things like the team dropping points for a spell in the autumn not because of mentality but because Harry Kane was injured and Vincent Janssen was having stage fright
Chelsea heading 6th and now just 3 points behind us.
We can all see where this is going, can't we?
We can all see where this is going, can't we?
Nope...but if it does then Ange needs to look at his tactics, team choice etc.. would be an improvement on slagging the fans off.
Lost a lot of respect for him after his interview.
Lost a lot of respect for him after his interview.
go.
More so given that he can pop down the road to
Pochettino to ask how the last game of the 2015-16
season went for him.
So we qualify for Europa with a point or if City beat Utd in the FA Cup. If both go against us then Conference League.
That thumping by Arsenal was their only loss in about 15 league games. They’ve really started buying into Poch’s tactics and unfortunately we all know what he’s capable of as a manager.
Their upturn in form is a stark contrast to us where we look further away from “Ange-ball” than at the start of the season. I think at one stage there was around a 13 point gap between us, possibly more.
That said, if we don’t secure at least a point against one of the worst teams in Prem history, then well… probably best I don’t comment much more.
Conference League? We'd be relegated. They have hungry fighters down there.We don't have any!
