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Morning from sunny Cyprus, while putting the world to rights every late afternoon with a cold beer we somehow got onto the cost of living, There are 4 families of us with 2 or 3 kids each ranging from 8 to 16. Back home for me and the wife to go out for a family meal it can cost around £100 for 4 of us, that’s just a run of the mill Italians with soft drinks. Out here we ate well with beer & wine and in my opinion the food was much better and it only cost 75€.
1 of the families with us have 3 kids and openly admit they no longer go out for meals as it could cost as much as a week’s shopping! It’s something we have always done maybe once a fortnight, everyone together for a few hours, no phones no games or anything just a few hours eating together and talking. I look forward to it more than anything else in my week, even the match! Are we being priced out of things like this or is the price of food and alcohol really that high for a run of the mill restaurant to charge an arm and a leg?

Ate out every night in Madeira recently and it was costing about £30 for two main courses and two alcoholic drinks.

Hardly ever eat out at home.
 
Non binary .. ladies with balls. Or should I say laddies.

I've put a lot of thought into this and still haven't come to any conclusions. I don't care what people choose to call themselves but I don't want to be bullied into having to use the adjectives they've decided on.

It all reminds me of 'the artist formerly known as Prince' tbh. If I decide to refer to myself as 'superior being' I wouldn't insist people using it to address me as such.

I respect everyone, and show respect, unless they destroy that respect.
 
I've put a lot of thought into this and still haven't come to any conclusions. I don't care what people choose to call themselves but I don't want to be bullied into having to use the adjectives they've decided on.

It all reminds me of 'the artist formerly known as Prince' tbh. If I decide to refer to myself as 'superior being' I wouldn't insist people using it to address me as such.

I respect everyone, and show respect, unless they destroy that respect.

Yep. If anyone wants to be identified as, or refered to as a cat, a dog, or a tree, it's their business, not ours.

We are taught to repsect their choices. However, we don't have to agree with their choices.

In the end, it all boils down to biology, nothing else!

If you were born a male, you will remain a male until you die.

Have all the surgery you wish to have over a period of time to change your appearance, and spend as much money you can afford to achieve this, but the bottom line is you cannot change your birth sex.

Nobody can argue with biology...
 
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There are now so many different “names” , if that’s the right word , that people are choosing /preferring/ insisting upon, and I am not going to spend time trying to learn , remember and understand them all .
How are we supposed to address them as they wish to be addressed if they just look like another human being? Guess? Then the risk of offence if you get it wrong .
Don’t care who are what you are- just be a nice person and I’ll be same
 
There are now so many different “names” , if that’s the right word , that people are choosing /preferring/ insisting upon, and I am not going to spend time trying to learn , remember and understand them all .
How are we supposed to address them as they wish to be addressed if they just look like another human being? Guess? Then the risk of offence if you get it wrong .
Don’t care who are what you are- just be a nice person and I’ll be same

For whatever reason, after I've introduced myself as Neville, lots of people call me Nigel ...

... I really couldn't give a toss.
 
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In the end, it all boils down to biology, nothing else!

If you were born a male, you will remain a male until you die.

Have all the surgery you wish to have over a period of time to change your appearance, and spend as much money you can afford to achieve this, but the bottom line is you cannot change your birth sex.

Nobody can argue with biology...

A friend of mine had five penises ...

... his underpants fit like a glove <laugh>