Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

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saintKlopp said:
If that were the sole criterion then I'd agree with you, more or less. But I think that was just one of the things that led JB to what was more a character assessment than a pure footballing analysis.
Stealing Eriksen's goal was a pretty shabby act, tbf. I can't believe you don't remember that - it was big at the time and sparked a meme where Kane claimed credit to all sorts of things, many entirely unrelated to football.
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Kane was NOT the first to the moon, I believe that was our man JT!!

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saintKlopp said:
If that were the sole criterion then I'd agree with you, more or less. But I think that was just one of the things that led JB to what was more a character assessment than a pure footballing analysis.
Stealing Eriksen's goal was a pretty shabby act, tbf. I can't believe you don't remember that - it was big at the time and sparked a meme where Kane claimed credit to all sorts of things, many entirely unrelated to football.
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You've explained my stance better than I was able to. <ok>
 
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Look, nobody will every convince anyone on the merits or otherwise of Saint Harry.

I'm quite content laughing at his attitude and collection of individual records.

The biggest single thing I would point to is the outrageously egotistical framed fake vinyl record to "thank" them for him breaking the England goal scoring record.

If anyone handed me that they'd get it broke over their head.

It listed all his goals for England, well past the point of being a joke and also refered to vol 1 like as if he expected to do it again after hitting g 100 goals or something.

He had each personalised for a team mate.

"Presented to Declan Rice. The gift is a sign of my appreciation for the part you have played in assisting me to become England's all-time leading goalscorer"

The absolute arrogance and ego make be very happy to see him win **** all st bayern this time round.

We all know the medals there are like handing out smarties at a kids party so to fail to get any season 1 is absolutely hilarious
 
In all honesty, I don't have major beef with Kane. I do recall one nasty challenge on one of our players that angered me at the time... But overall he's just another player for a rival to me.

Fun to laugh at his exploits at Spurs and beyond, but I really don't have that much beef with him.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
Ask yourself, was he moving to the most successful team in Germany to help them win another trophy or was he doing it to finally win a trophy himself?

He's got more individual awards than most players will ever get. His grossly selfish act of appealing to, whichever panel it is that deals with these things, in order to take a goal away from his teammate to add to his own tally, tells you all you need to know.

If someone can put forward a good case, I'm open, on most occasions, to changing my mind. This isn't one of them. Same for you, I guess.
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Isn’t that exactly the same thing? If one happens than the other also happens so not sure why that’s an issue? Like I say every player when moving clubs if going to a better club is surely going there to win the club and themselves trophies?

Would you say palmer is a selfish player out of interest? He left city where coukd help the team win trophies just so he could be first choice on the pitch at a weaker team.

A striker claiming he touched the ball and the goals his… not sure 1 small thing like that can be used to completely sum up a persons character?

Just confused by the definition of being a selfish player. When it’s talked about in football it’s always been about someone who doesn’t pass the ball, would rather shoot at goal than lay it sidewards for a tap in. Doesn’t put in the hard graft for the team and just stands around letting others do the hard work. All things that I don’t think applies to Kane.

But maybe we’re using different definitions
 
johnsonsbaby said:
I'm not sure I follow your logic. He was obviously moving to a team to try and win some trophies for himself. He picked a team that anyone would have bet on to win at least one. Unless you think that he was going there purely unselfishly to help them win a trophy?
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InBiscanWeTrust said:
So moving to a team to win team
trophies is a selfish act? If that’s the criteria then fine he’s a selfish player. Along with every other footballer on the planet.
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All players have to have a selfish side, especially strikers when it covers to goalscoring. Players have to look after themselves, clubs won't hesitate to spit a player out should it suit them.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Isn’t that exactly the same thing? If one happens than the other also happens so not sure why that’s an issue? Like I say every player when moving clubs if going to a better club is surely going there to win the club and themselves trophies?

Would you say palmer is a selfish player out of interest? He left city where coukd help the team win trophies just so he could be first choice on the pitch at a weaker team.

A striker claiming he touched the ball and the goals his… not sure 1 small thing like that can be used to completely sum up a persons character?

Just confused by the definition of being a selfish player. When it’s talked about in football it’s always been about someone who doesn’t pass the ball, would rather shoot at goal than lay it sidewards for a tap in. Doesn’t put in the hard graft for the team and just stands around letting others do the hard work. All things that I don’t think applies to Kane.

But maybe we’re using different definitions
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I've already wasted more time in thinking about him than I ever intended, down to you contesting the issue on his selfishness :p

I'm never going to like any man who swears on the life of his child. I find that reprehensible.
 
Ridiculous. Didn’t even need the equaliser as still going through but had to just go and do it in the final minute to remain unbeaten.

Hope they can go and win the unbeaten treble. I’d ask if there was a better season by any club in history of football if they do it?
 
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InBiscanWeTrust said:
Ridiculous. Didn’t even need the equaliser as still going through but had to just go and do it in the final minute to remain unbeaten.

Hope they can go and win the unbeaten treble. I’d ask if there was a better season by any club in history of football if they do it?
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Well, they either win the treble or don't now, no longer the opportunity to lose a game and still win the treble
 
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