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Brainy Dose

Brainy Dose

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Can I ask a question. How is it that the technology exists to intercept and destroy airborne missiles travelling hundreds of miles, but our collective French and British Govts.Border Control Agencies are unable to intercept small boats and dinghys setting out from a relatively small 30 mile coastline of water.
 
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Brainy Dose said:
Can I ask a question. How is it that the technology exists to intercept and destroy airborne missiles travelling hundreds of miles, but our collective French and British Govts.Border Control Agencies are unable to intercept small boats and dinghys setting out from a relatively small 30 mile coastline of water.
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Because they don’t want to stop them?
 
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if anyone tells me the french are trying to stop them i would find that extremely hard to believe, they have enough problems and if people prefer to head to england why should they stop them and increase their own problems?

plus, somebody is making a sh1t ton of money getting them onto boats and there will be many I.O.U's in there as well...i am always thinking if those that could stop such things but don't, are they the ones making the money?
 
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samwise_new said:
plus, somebody is making a sh1t ton of money getting them onto boats and there will be many I.O.U's in there as well...i am always thinking if those that could stop such things but don't, are they the ones making the money?
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These NGOs are all corrupt, the worst culprit being israAID, look them up. In America it’s HIAS (also look them up).
 
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E.T. Fairfax said:
Anybody who makes the crossing with their children in tow should have their children taken off them and put into care, and themselves be instantly buried up to their necks in sand on Dover beach.
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Trebucheted out into the north sea for me, if they make it back alive they get a free plane ticket to wherever it is they came from. ✈️
 
Brainy Dose said:
Can I ask a question. How is it that the technology exists to intercept and destroy airborne missiles travelling hundreds of miles, but our collective French and British Govts.Border Control Agencies are unable to intercept small boats and dinghys setting out from a relatively small 30 mile coastline of water.
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I find it deeply upsetting and disturbing.



All those dinghy's going to waste.
 
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Brainy Dose said:
Can I ask a question. How is it that the technology exists to intercept and destroy airborne missiles travelling hundreds of miles, but our collective French and British Govts.Border Control Agencies are unable to intercept small boats and dinghys setting out from a relatively small 30 mile coastline of water.
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Once they're in the water they're untouchable ...

... more complicated, but that's it in a nutshell.

Maritime law is pretty far reaching.
 
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Once they're in the water they're untouchable ...

... more complicated, but that's it in a nutshell.

Maritime law is pretty far reaching.
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So,if the Russians turned up in a warship off the coast of Calais,the French wouldn't be able to turn them around as they are in French Terriortorial Waters?
 
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So,if the Russians turned up in a warship off the coast of Calais,the French wouldn't be able to turn them around as they are in French Terriortorial Waters?
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Totally different situation.

If a few strange lads are hanging around on your street the police don't have much power to move them on. If they're carrying weapons and threatening they'll have an armed response unit down in minutes.

Besides, being realistic, what do the French do. These boats are already critically low in the water at sea. As part of my RYA boat licence exam I had to prove I could rescue someone in distress in a small boat. It's really difficult to approach them without swamping their boat.

If a migrant boat, with women and children, goes under the naval officers have to live with those deaths, that's a big ask. And what do they do if they arrest them all, indefinite prison?

Once we left Europe we made the job ten times harder imo.
 
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Brainy Dose said:
Can I ask a question. How is it that the technology exists to intercept and destroy airborne missiles travelling hundreds of miles, but our collective French and British Govts.Border Control Agencies are unable to intercept small boats and dinghys setting out from a relatively small 30 mile coastline of water.
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Problem is mate , we can intercept them, we do all the time, however we have to escort them back here. I also think the law states we can't intercept and destroy them.
Thing that we are struggling with is the fact the French are slightly reluctant to stick to their end of the deal of stopping them getting in the boats in the first place.
 
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Iain said:
Problem is mate , we can intercept them, we do all the time, however we have to escort them back here. I also think the law states we can't intercept and destroy them.
Thing that we are struggling with is the fact the French are slightly reluctant to stick to their end of the deal of stopping them getting in the boats in the first place.
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It's obviously becoming an untenable position but with no desire to amend certain pacts and agreements it will fuel more anger against these international humanitarian orgs like the UN and such. Someone (a country) will eventually just contravene the laws/agreements and then challenge it in court and find it untenable and then it will be force-amended. That's the good-for-all-parties ending by the way, the bad ending is countries simply band-together and reject the laws, which isn't that far off in my opinion.
 
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