I am still of the opinion we need some who has seen more than rohl or still. I know the club will likely go that route, but I watch some of these young lads in our squad and their naievity in game situations is so noticeable. We need someone with some heavyweight experience in my opinion. The squad we have now is weak. Chances are it will be weaker before it gets stronger. It is going to need some real expertise to rebuild this in my opinion. We arent just a couple of players away.
Wouldn’t be against heckinbottam for those reasons but it looks like we’re all in for Still again just hope we have a better back up plan this time if it doesn’t come off
We def need a leader but that can be an inexperienced manager like Rohl. He has been around elite set ups at Leipzig, Bayern and Germany A good manager and a good transfer window and we will be fine - i get that its not as simple as that tho
Just back and that summed up the second half of our season. Sideways and backwards. No vision, no ideas, no penetration. A bid summer in front of us. No doubt I will find something positive if I try hard
Thank god there’s only 2 left, sick of this season. Would love an announcement before the end of the season
What is this obsession with Rohl, the team he is managing is in the bottom 3 of our division. Am I missing something that makes him so good ?
Quality coach, plays exciting football and the fact that hes got a shocking sheff wed fighting for safety is an unreal job. He inherited a shocking team who looked dead n burried when he came in. They are 10th in the form table since hes come in, over 30 games. Theyd of been closer to the playoffs than the relegation zone if he had been in since the start (i kmow its not as simple as that) Has an impressive coaching career at top teams n the national side in Germany
Look at Sheff Weds squad, look at how they were doing before his appointment and how they are doing since he came in, the only reason they have a chance of survival is him.
Let me throw something out there. Folk can kick it about a bit. In the last 2 years the so called model has been implemented to an extreme level and it should now be be subject to a reset. As it stands it is failing us. I think it is too experimentally based on young players we cant know will do well, and dare I say it coaches who are in the same boat. It cant work. Look at the play off team that won at Wembley and the experience we had. Gooch, Wright, Baath, Evans, ONien, Pritchard, Stewart. Then look at the coach we had orchestrating them - someone with play off campaign wins under their belt. We come up to the Championship and replace Neil with Mowbray. Mowbray still has those players bar Wright. He also has the incredible ability to make young players shine like the brightest stars. The job Mowbray did last season, getting the team into the playoffs, with a brand of football that was magnificent, has to be one of the best coaching performances in a long long time at Sunderland. But why was he seemingly uncertain of his future? He comes in for the summer, club at a tremendous level and able to bring in some top talent. But we start undermining the value of experience. Baath goes, Evans and Stewart not replaced with lads who can step into the 11. Pritchard and Gooch reportedly given the cold shoulder. All the while we sign lads that might one day be ready to play. Hemir, Mayenda, Adil, Pembele. We take the Bellingham gamble. Oddly we have our own young academy lads who occupy similar positions. Some of our fans had got far too excited at the thought Farioli was coming (as if) and this sexy modern young coach was better than the fella who was performing at an elite level. At the first run of rough form out goes the elite level coach, who has seen it all before, and we leave a lad in charge of coaching younger than the club captain. We try, it seems, to appoint the coach with a media story, and fail. We get Beale, then we sell off the last of the core of the squad that had taken us on the upward spiral. We are left with a coaching team without the know how, players without the know how, and a ship that looks completely rudderless. Folk know my opinion on the Mowbray sacking. It was way too early and utterly contemptible. Then we jettison the last of the players who can navigate tough times on the pitch. We let players who lead by example go. We fill a squad with technically lovely footballers, like Ba and Adil, but who have yet to learn the game. We have a coach leading them who also has yet to learn the game. All in my opinion of course. So here we are. Youngest squad. Youngest Owner. Very young coach. Very young Technical Director? If young is ok with you replace with inexperienced. KLD is in his first job. Speakman first time as top man. Dodds very new to team coaching. Where is the experience, at a time like this, who knows what we need? I dont think they are inside the club. Are they? Now I agree we have improved dramatically since KLD and Speakman arrived. But right now we are in freefall. I believe 100% the reason for that is the complete focus on young talent with resale upside, and of course the sacking of the one fella in the club with experience of the good and the bad. Folk say the summer is massive. I agree, but I think it may prove to be much harder to correct this course than people think. That is because the inexperienced leadership team are just as likely to make more mistakes as make great decisions. The best thing KLD could do right now, in my opinion, is bring in an old head, who understands the reality of championship football, to act as a consultant to him. I dont mean someone to come be a coach, or be the main man strategically. Rather someone who can be a critical friend and explain the counter argument for the approach we are taking, and explain how a team is best constructed. Slightly drunken ramble over. I am worried about our overall direction of travel though. And we, better than most, know that 1 summer is not guaranteed to be enough to stop a decline in form.
Fair enough, didn't know much about him other than being sheff wed manager. Have no idea what style of football they play since he went in.
You make some cracking points, i do feel we need some experience somewhere at the club (in a senior position) I dont think we are in freefall as such, this season has been shocking but we still have some real quality in the squad. Young players should continue to improve and i feel adding a few players, that are championship ready, to this sqaud we have a cracking chance of rebounding The managerial appointment is the key one. I look at how leveuksen outlook totally changed when Alonso came in. They had an ok squad, but he totally got the most out of their squad, added a couple cracking players and now look at them I prefer to be class half full (its been really really tough this season) but this summer is MASSIVE, its make or break for this regime
High pressing, play through the lines quality and he has them playing with energy I cant believe how much he has transformed them this season, one of the stand out managerial performances this season
Well articulated but all I’m going to say is nah - change of coach, tweak to the strategy, a few good signings and we’ll be sorted
I think I'm pretty much on the same page. I don't see us as being in freefall at all. I think there are clear signs that the ownership know that a watershed moment is coming. If they didn't, I think we would have seen a new manager by now. That's left us in a little bit of limbo, but it's not freefall. I've said before that I hope the board conducts a thorough review of what's happened this season. I'm beginning to think that's already taken place. I think we'll find soon that reports of our demise have been greatly exaggerated.
I have very little confidence that the next window will be a good one,very little at all. Oh, and I am sick to death of hearing about YOUNG this and YOUNG that, as if simply Being young is an advantage, better than an experienced person. I do not care about the age of a person, only their ability to do the job
