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Match Day Thread Hull City v Middlesbrough

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Apr 8, 2024.

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City win?

  1. City

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  1. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    One year left on his deal so shouldn't be too expensive I would hope.

    Am I mistaken or can he also play in midfield?
     
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  2. Shark Sports

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    Yes, he can I think. Would give us some height in there and a bit of bite too.

    The one moment I found really concerning from last night was that Howson went past Serin like he wasn't even there in the 2nd half.
     
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  3. Tigerboy98

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    IMG_0622.jpeg Interesting stats
     
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    Here you go:

    Screenshot 2024-04-12 at 12.53.59 pm.png

    Allsop with the 9th best save percentage in the league..

    ..but dig a bit deeper and it does look a touch worse:

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    Basically every time he faces a shot, adjusted for difficulty of the shot, Allsop is the worst at saving it out of all keepers who have played in the league. Although that list doesn't include Ingram so can't be completely exhaustive. Of note, Meslier is right down the bottom too, as is Palmer, so the stat isn't as clear cut as it may otherwise look. When I adjust the next column which is basically how many goals has he conceded below what he should have saved, he's second worst only ahead of Bazunu. Again, an interesting one given Southampton's relative success and persistence with Bazunu.
     
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  6. Tigerboy98

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    I just stole it off Twitter so I’m not sure what order it is currently

    Edit: looks like league position
     
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  7. SydneyTiger14

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    All good, would think it'd be more relevant to sort it by costs per point or per victory. At 250k a point we're doing a hell of a lot better than 14 other teams on a pounds per point basis.
     
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  8. Tigerboy98

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    Sorting it cost per point we’re doing pretty well, don’t think takes into account wages either IMG_0658.jpeg
     
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  9. zimozimo

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    Thats great!
     
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  10. askewshair

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    You’re right. Built on the narrative created by the opinion of a few Cardiff fans. Don’t think he’s the best shot stopper in the world, but he offers a lot more in other areas. Unfortunately since Delaps injury, he doesn’t have that option with his long ball over the top.
    People around us were calling him immediately after that Boro goal.. from 120 yards away. I’ve watched it a few times and not sure what he could have done.
    He made himself big at the near post, which is what goalies are supposed to do. He doesn’t have time to react, just make yourself big, ie don’t go down to early. The ball went between his legs, the one vulnerable spot if you make yourself big. I don’t see that as a mistake, I think people are confusing that with getting beaten on your near post when your positioning is wrong and it goes between yourself and the near post.. and as you say, looking for that story again.
     
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    From Philo’s header which bounced and so was at a comfortable height? I was wondering how it bounced that bloody high when all my golf ball is doing currently is just plug.
     
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  12. Amin Yapusi

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    He’s the worst keeper in the league, it’s not an opinion, it’s a fact. Even Opta says he should have saved half the goals he’s conceded. He’s just absolutely woeful. Probably the worst player in the world.
     
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    I hate the TWS c***, but Ayling was talking their defence through the game. I thought Philo gave him a roasting first half, but he did recover second half, something a player with less experience may not have done.
    Rosenior keeps talking about finding ways to lose, and maybe we need a good old(er) ‘un.
     
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    Well if Opta say so.
    I’m sure he’s not. Maybe not the best shot stopper in the world, but the role is more than that nowadays. I aren’t suggesting he should be No. 1 next season, because I think we do need someone better in that department. Some of the goals blamed on him are ridiculous.
     
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  15. Amin Yapusi

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    He’s let in a stupidly soft goal 4 games on the bounce, then in the Leicester game before that he played that suicide pass which came straight back to him, made an atrocious effort to save the shot and was only spared further embarrassment by the post.


    He’s absolutely ****e. Yes people are right to say that other keepers get away with things that people moan at Allsop about but that’s because he is consistently ****e. There is no narrative from Cardiff that fans have been brainwashed with, people have just seen with their own eyes that he’s ****ing ****e, lets in lots of soft goals and rarely makes any notable saves.

    TLDR: he’s ****ing ****e.
     
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    I believe there is one keeper worse than Allsop according to some stats
     
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  17. Amin Yapusi

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    That’s the overall table. When adjusted for time played Allsop is worse, the other keeper has played 720 minutes more than Allsop and is only 1 goal worse overall.
     
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    No QPR thread yet and even the club are being very quiet about it in "the socials".

    All feels very "season over"
     
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    The players read this you know, you're not doing his confidence any good at all.
     
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  20. SydneyTiger14

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    Yeah but he doesn't dive so he's not as **** as Twine.
     
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