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it's not practical to have everything you need within 15 minutes
I like to go to Ikea - even just for the meatballs
you will never get an Ikea within 15 minutes
other shops wont have the range of goods that Ikea has
we have a Sainsbury's and M&S close but we dont fancy carrying everything home. it's much better to go with our car.

It wouldn't be everything. IKEA isn’t a daily essential, no matter how often someone might eat the meatballs.
 
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It wouldn't be everything. IKEA isn’t a daily essential, no matter how often someone might eat the meatballs.
we go once a week to Ikea
we go to another place more than 15 minutes away once a week
we go to friends and relatives or they come to us once or twice a week and they are more than 15 minutes away
we are not going back to living in tents/caves and walk everywhere
society has evolved and improved and no amount of pressure by "planners" will change people
in London trains/tubes/buses are very efficient
 
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we go once a week to Ikea
we go to another place more than 15 minutes away once a week
we go to friends and relatives or they come to us once or twice a week and they are more than 15 minutes away
we are not going back to living in tents/caves and walk everywhere
society has evolved and improved and no amount of pressure by "planners" will change people
in London trains/tubes/buses are very efficient

Jesus wept, nobody's suggesting that the entire population needs to be within 15 minutes of an IKEA or all their mates.

The idea is that everyone can reach nine basic needs — such as food, health care, education and sports — within 15 minutes by bike. It's already been successfully implemented in several cities. Utrecht is a prime example, almost 100% of the population can access these things within fifteen minutes already.
 
"habitable land" - what do you mean?

Global warming, our planet’s rising temperature, the eventual loss of our ice caps leading to mass floods, and a reduction in safe, breathable air. We’re not preventing any of that by burning fossil fuels, and there are no solutions that wouldn’t come without a degree of inconvenience to us all. One day, future humans will balk at the idea that we would drive such short trips because we didn’t fancy doing it another way.

It’s worth mentioning that I don’t want to sound high and mighty, as I drive everywhere myself. I’d like to reduce this, but it’s difficult where I live because everything seems to be just too far to walk.
 
Jesus wept, nobody's suggesting that the entire population needs to be within 15 minutes of an IKEA or all their mates.

The idea is that everyone can reach nine basic needs — such as food, health care, education and sports — within 15 minutes by bike. It's already been successfully implemented in several cities. Utrecht is a prime example, almost 100% of the population can access these things within fifteen minutes already.
You really think people should use their bike to do food shopping?
People who require health care should go to doctors and hospitals by bike?
What madness is this?
 
Global warming, our planet’s rising temperature, the eventual loss of our ice caps leading to mass floods, and a reduction in safe, breathable air. We’re not preventing any of that by burning fossil fuels, and there are no solutions that wouldn’t come without a degree of inconvenience to us all. One day, future humans will balk at the idea that we would drive such short trips because we didn’t fancy doing it another way.

It’s worth mentioning that I don’t want to sound high and mighty, as I drive everywhere myself. I’d like to reduce this, but it’s difficult where I live because everything seems to be just too far to walk.
We are all doomed!?
https://x.com/Haosou1/status/1776567559971590510
 
Horrifying though it is, I think you're actually serious. If you lived in a neighbourhood where everything you needed was within 15 minutes walk, how would you be a prisoner?

I wasn't being serious, jhe. I like the idea of the process and will hopefully be moving back into city life later this year, after 18 years living in the countryside (that has progressively become less countryside over this period of time). The idea of walking 15 mins to get my food, go to the gym, a bar/restaurant and 15 mins walk from my company office, rather than commuting every day or having to get in the car, appeals.

Anyone that goes to IKEA weekly needs to be sectioned ;... It's a fking nightmare walking round.
 
I wasn't being serious, jhe. I like the idea of the process and will hopefully be moving back into city life later this year, after 18 years living in the countryside (that has progressively become less countryside over this period of time). The idea of walking 15 mins to get my food, go to the gym, a bar/restaurant and 15 mins walk from my company office, rather than commuting every day or having to get in the car, appeals.

Anyone that goes to IKEA weekly needs to be sectioned ;... It's a fking nightmare walking round.
Going to the Ikea restaurant at Croydon involves going through the entrance, up the escalator and into the restaurant
It can be done in a minute if you have your wits about you
 
netherlands population increased by about 1.8million since 2000
england population increased about about 10million since 2000

all aspects of services are far worse than 2000, how on earth are these cities mean to work

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dystopian af innit

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Anyone that goes to IKEA weekly needs to be sectioned ;... It's a fking nightmare walking round.

Are you one of those people who starts at the beginning and walks through to the end rather than look at the diagrams and takes the short cuts?
 
Are you one of those people who starts at the beginning and walks through to the end rather than look at the diagrams and takes the short cuts?

I'm one of those people who doesn't go to IKEA. It's not for me, Peter, I don't enjoy shopping, especially on a weekend. Online for me, all the way.