“Net Zero”: The political lie for a generation

[Toby]

I took the charts in this post from an article in the Telegraph on Monday entitled “The ‘elephant in the room’ that risks exposing Britain’s net zero agenda”.

The theory is not difficult to understand. It is a story of lying politicians only using the statistics that seem most palatable to their argument.

Go back to Boxing Day 2023 and the Net Zero Secretary Claire Coutinho was telling us that we had halved our emissions based on a 1971 baseline: UK hailed as ‘world leader in tackling climate change’ as first G20 nation to halve carbon emissions

In September, Sunak was bragging about how our greenhouse gas emissions were down by nearly half compared to the 1990 baseline being used as a target. In the same timeframe, the USA had achieved no reduction, the French only 22 per cent and China was up more than 300 per cent.

Of course the lie here is that these numbers are for Britain’s emissions within its own borders. So as this graph shows, emissions have fallen:

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But this fall has occurred because we have offshored our emissions by manufacturing less and importing more. So the graph of reality is more like this:

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The fall in CO2 emissions of nearly 400m tonnes in territorial numbers is virtually wiped out by the 350m tonnes plus increase in overseas emissions. We got rid of all our coal-fired power stations and the industries that used the energy and now get cheap imports from China, which builds coal-fired power stations with alacrity.

We use a lot less energy than we did in the seventies because all the heavy industry has gone:

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So it is smoke and mirrors – and the CO2 from the smoke is rising over China.

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Think it’s safe to say at this stage that Toby has some form of autism.

 

[Toby]

Think it’s safe to say at this stage that Toby has some form of autism.

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[EDGE.]

Autism confirmed.

Safe to say if Toby was a teenager these days, he'd be wearing a dress and pretending to be a fox.

But, just to be extra different, he'd be the worlds first vegan fox.

 

[Easter Road 1980]

Autism confirmed.

Safe to say if Toby was a teenager these days, he'd be wearing a dress and pretending to be a fox.

But, just to be extra different, he'd be the worlds first vegan fox.

 

[Toby]

Autism confirmed.

Safe to say if Toby was a teenager these days, he'd be wearing a dress and pretending to be a fox.

But, just to be extra different, he'd be the worlds first vegan fox.

You're very upset that I don't believe in your covid-hoax/WEF bollocks. I'll try to slam my skull into the wall a dozen times to see if that helps

 

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You're very upset that I don't believe in your covid-hoax/WEF bollocks. I'll try to slam my skull into the wall a dozen times to see if that helps

I don’t care what you think Toby.

hth

 

[Easter Road 1980]

Lefty Loony green tree hugging hypocrites are ****ing hilarious.

Spastics the lot of them.

 

[Toby]

I don’t care what you think Toby.

hth

 

[QuarterMoonII]

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Marxist Saint Greta your latest fantasy?

Surely you can find a better picture than this one to toss yourself over. There must be one of her in handcuffs.

 

[QuarterMoonII]

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Apparently, my gas and electricity charges are going down, starting on Easter Monday.

There is some truth in that. The gas is going from 7.34p per kWh to 6.01p and the electricity is going from 27.78p per kWh to 23.35p. So the gas is down by 1.33p per kWh and electricity is down by 4.43p per kWh.

Appropriate that it will be All Fools’ Day because there is a small fly in the ointment. The gas standing charge is going up by 1.95p per day and the electricity standing charge is going up by 11.43p per day. So what they give with one hand they take with the other.

Of course, Ed Miliband’s Green Prosperity Plan will fix this for everyone. There will be no electricity at all when the wind does not blow and the sun does not shine. But, hang on, I will surely still get a daily standing charge even if there is nothing to deliver. Dame Kelly Stormer has already rowed back on the £28bn a year as he knows there is no money. When the Tories leave at the General Election, who will be doing the Liam Byrne note at the Treasury?

 

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[Toby]

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Was reading this earlier. Suggest you do too

 

[DMD]

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Was reading this earlier. Suggest you do too

You seem to be suggesting that a journalist is better informed than scientists. I wonder if you'll hold that same position for other topics.

 

[Easter Road 1980]

You seem to be suggesting that a journalist is better informed than scientists. I wonder if you'll hold that same position for other topics.

Typical lefty loony hypocrite

 

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Was reading this earlier. Suggest you do too

 

[EDGE.]

You seem to be suggesting that a journalist is better informed than scientists. I wonder if you'll hold that same position for other topics.

At this point, I am almost certain Toby is an operative of the 77th Brigade.

He likes to push "progressive" policies (progressive = regressive in reality), is the uberest of the uber far left, wants the State to govern harder and with more control over individuals, and signs up for every imaginary crisis, without question, unless it involves muslims or folk with tanned skin.

Approach with caution.

 

[DMD]

At this point, I am almost certain Toby is an operative of the 77th Brigade.

He likes to push "progressive" policies (progressive = regressive in reality), is the uberest of the uber far left, wants the State to govern harder and with more control over individuals, and signs up for every imaginary crisis, without question, unless it involves muslims or folk with tanned skin.

Approach with caution.

I just see him as a clone in the same mould as the other thick, irrelevant ****ers that same incapable of having thoughts of their own.

 

[QuarterMoonII]

This of course does assume that your Smart Meter actually works, does not result in you being overcharged (15 per cent are defective) and does not burst into flames and burn your house down

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Smart People do not have a Smart Meter, so Ed Miliband will not be able to switch off their power when the wind is not blowing.
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[QuarterMoonII]

There was much fanfare by the government when Ed Miliband announced that he was unblocking the hold-up on large scale onshore wind turbine farms and solar panel farms. Has anyone seen any announcements of when their energy bills are going to start falling? It will be some time around the Twelfth of Never.

At the same time, Miliband announced that there was going to be no new oil and gas exploration. I seem to recall that Labour was going to increase the ‘windfall tax’ on oil and gas companies. Since the amount of that tax yield is dependent upon how much oil and gas they produce then that tax yield must fall as less is produced. The ‘windfall tax’ under the last government never yielded anything like it was forecast to do because market prices are global, so as prices fell so did profits.

Also, given Labour’s commitment to energy security where is the commonsense in stopping producing oil and gas in our own domain and instead being forced to import it from less secure (and maybe unfriendly) domains? Just as well we were not hostage to a Russian gas supply like Germany. They have gone back to burning coal.