Off Topic Politics Thread

[Osvaldorama]

Weird. I have taught hundreds of muslim children and they all tell the exact same story: homosexuality is bad, brother is treated differently to sister, western people are immoral.

And their husbands will be imported from Pakistan.

Nope, not happening

ignore your lived experience, Schad will find some study that tells you you’re wrong.

FWIW the one of the biggest problems in England right now is the volume of people in such a small space and with such underfunded public services

 

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https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news...-primary-muslim-protests-lgbt-teaching-rights

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/opini...o-lgbtq-curricula-for-their-kids-arent-bigots

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/06/27/muslim-orthodox-lgbtq-books-mcps/

 

[Schad]

Weird. I have taught hundreds of muslim children and they all tell the exact same story: homosexuality is bad, brother is treated differently to sister, western people are immoral.

And their husbands will be imported from Pakistan.

Possible that the two countries draw different populations from within those countries, I don't know. I mean, you don't come to Canada without knowing that it will be cloyingly multicultural.

 

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Possible that the two countries draw different populations from within those countries, I don't know. I mean, you don't come to Canada without knowing that it will be cloyingly multicultural.

Schad, people come here for the money. It is a fact. I met a Pole once who told me: "nobody wants to come to England for the culture. Everyone hates English culture. But you have money. I will work here to make money and miss Poland."

I just looked it up and you have very similar amounts of Indians and a much smaller proportion of Pakistanis. I think that might be your difference maker.

 

[StJabbo1]

Schad, people come here for the money. It is a fact. I met a Pole once who told me: "nobody wants to come to England for the culture. Everyone hates English culture. But you have money. I will work here to make money and miss Poland."

I just looked it up and you have very similar amounts of Indians and a much smaller proportion of Pakistanis. I think that might be your difference maker.

I met a Pole once who escaped the right wing ideologists destroying his country who was enjoying the diversity in the UK and the opportunities. Then along came brexshit.

 

[Schrodinger's Cat]

Possible that the two countries draw different populations from within those countries, I don't know. I mean, you don't come to Canada without knowing that it will be cloyingly multicultural.

That might be a good point, but I've not seen any stats giving a breakdown of say education levels of immigrants to this country. I do know that there are communities where young women get virtually no educational choices and that we have 2nd generation immigrants who cannot speak English. That's isn't through lack of opportunities or discrimination because of 'otherness' though, it's enforced by their own native culture and just continues here.

I don't have the answers though, just a few ideas and opinions and I view the world through my own lens so it's skewed toward my biases and prejudices. I know we have a problem here in the UK though, and I don't really know how we fix it.
I've always found though that people are more accepting of change when times are prosperous, and they see a hopeful future. There's not many in the UK feeling that atm, from any groups of people

 

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I met a Pole once who escaped the right wing ideologists destroying his country who was enjoying the diversity in the UK then along came brexshit.

Fair point! But let’s not pretend that everyone coming here is escaping persecution.

 

[StJabbo1]

Fair point! But let’s not pretend that everyone coming here is escaping persecution.

Bit tongue in cheeks Loadsa, as is my Benidorm brits posts.

 

[StJabbo1]

Schad, people come here for the money. It is a fact. I met a Pole once who told me: "nobody wants to come to England for the culture. Everyone hates English culture. But you have money. I will work here to make money and miss Poland."

I just looked it up and you have very similar amounts of Indians and a much smaller proportion of Pakistanis. I think that might be your difference maker.

I met a Pole once who escaped the right wing ideologists destroying his country who was enjoying the diversity in the UK and the opportunities. Then along came brexshit.

Fair point! But let’s not pretend that everyone coming here is escaping persecution.

"Polish immigrants now make up 10 per cent of the population of Southampton."
https://southamptonoldlady.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/southampton-polish-capital-of-britain/

 

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"Polish immigrants now make up 10 per cent of the population of Southampton."
https://southamptonoldlady.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/southampton-polish-capital-of-britain/

They do. I could have given you that stat. That is rapid social change.

 

[It'sOnlyAGame]

All is not well in paradise.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68621013

 

[Libby]

Terrorist attack in Russia. Seems like there'll be lots of casualties.

Terribly sad. ****ing scumbags.

 

[Libby]

40 dead

 

[Le Tissier's Laces]

Terrorist attack in Russia. Seems like there'll be lots of casualties.

Terribly sad. ****ing scumbags.

Yeah, grim stuff.

 

[Osvaldorama]

Terrorist attack in Russia. Seems like there'll be lots of casualties.

Terribly sad. ****ing scumbags.

In much the same way the Palestinian extremists felt they had no choice, I guess the Ukrainians felt the same.

****ing grim times worldwide at the moment.

 

[tomw24]

In much the same way the Palestinian extremists felt they had no choice, I guess the Ukrainians felt the same.

****ing grim times worldwide at the moment.

There is no proof at all right now that the attackers are linked to Ukraine in any way.

 

[The Ides of March]

His defeat absolutely was a repudiation of the left. And anyone that thinks otherwise spends too much time reading left wing propaganda (which I know you do already).

Nobody wants socialism. This has been proven at every general election and referendum that ever happens.

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Reform just dropped this as their manifesto.

They could do some real damage to both major parties if a GE is called. Most of these are common sense policies that the public has been crying out for.

It’s going to be an interesting few years politically

Can you explain what is wrong with the ECHR and why a British Bill of Human Rights would be better? I am at a loss on this one. As for the rest, it is purely pie in the sky!!!

 

[shoot_spiderman]

"Polish immigrants now make up 10 per cent of the population of Southampton."
https://southamptonoldlady.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/southampton-polish-capital-of-britain/

Southampton 2021 Census
People born in Poland -11,800 - 4.7%
(2011 - 3.5%)
(London - 127,000)

 

[Libby]

In much the same way the Palestinian extremists felt they had no choice, I guess the Ukrainians felt the same.

****ing grim times worldwide at the moment.

Don't think it's Ukraine mate. I'd be astonished if it was.

 

[tomw24]

Don't think it's Ukraine mate. I'd be astonished if it was.

IS have claimed responsibility. Not that it means they actually did it.