20 managers since Reidy

[Sol97uk]

You have to wonder how many managers would have turned out good if they'd been given more time.

Too much money in the game now for them to be given that chance. Our high turnover of managers is skewed by the short era where it was stay in the Premier league at all costs and new managers were brought in near the end of the season just to achieve survival with no long term planning to their appointment.

 

[Sol97uk]

I think Speakman might well be on his way in the summer personally. Simply based on his performance this year. If KLD is as determined as I hope he is to deliver then I doubt he will trust Speakman with another year personally. Too many roads lead back to him when it comes to the poor choices we have made, in my opinion. It will be a thanks for help turning us round from me, but a case of we need to step up in that position to a more elite level to progress.

Would that then not be the same as changing managers as soon as they hit a bad patch, we now change a DOF when they hit a bad patch? Or is the signings/appointments made in the last year been the direction of KLD and not all Speakman.

Speakman has got a lot wrong recently but is it all down to him and has also done well since his arrival, just don't think we need to be too hasty in sackings just for one poor season. Although I do think this summer is massive for the club to get it right in terms of next head coach and signings.

 

[Smug in Boots]

No, not employed by the club, worked with the club during Bob Murray's.
What gives me the right to critizise KS?, after seeing my friend TM embarrassed by him, the lies he told re Beal had been in discussions for 2 or 3 weeks before he was appointed is total bollocks, it was done over 5 days, then as with TM stick a non disclosure on their termination, smacks of covering his tracks.
I was not the only 1 who gave voiced criticism another 2 were move. What gives me the right he has turned from a canny bloke to an arrogant fool.
Employed by the owner who IMHO has been led a bit of a dance, but young and naive I think.Now that bit is just my opinion.
He speakman will be caught out and soon I hope.

Where was this reported, I didn't see anything.

 

[Yes but no but]

Barnes is a very poor journalist in my opinion, I rarely believe a word he says.

That’s fair enough mate. I think he knows a lot more than ppl give him credit for, he was pretty bang on about the takeover from KLD when it happened and knows quite abit about the goings on behind the scenes at the club.

 

[Bob the Mackem]

Where was this reported, I didn't see anything.

that was said by your new mate KS as if he had done du diligence on him, well if he had he ****ed right up there, look smug admit it, the whole thing since sir Bob moved has been a **** show.
we started to get it right under TM then Speakman ****ed it up.

 

[The Norton Cat]

that was said by your new mate KS as if he had done du diligence on him, well if he had he ****ed right up there, look smug admit it, the whole thing since sir Bob moved has been a **** show.
we started to get it right under TM then Speakman ****ed it up.

You mean since he sold up to Drumaville? It mostly has been **** since then but that's why many of us think KLD is the best owner we've had for donkey's years. Lots has been right under him. Sacking Mowbray probably was the wrong move but it's an isolated mistake amongst many good ones under this ownership.

 

[Smug in Boots]

that was said by your new mate KS as if he had done du diligence on him, well if he had he ****ed right up there, look smug admit it, the whole thing since sir Bob moved has been a **** show.
we started to get it right under TM then Speakman ****ed it up.

Where was it reported, I haven't seen that anywhere.

 

[FellTop]

Where was it reported, I haven't seen that anywhere.

Speakman made it clear they had been monitoring Beale as a coach for some time. Talked about watching coaches closely and those who are progressing or different things. Also said they had a clear shortlist ready and process of interviews that ignored outside noise of other candidates. All implications, in my opinion, was Beale was on the list at the start and proved best fit after the selection process.

 

[Smug in Boots]

Speakman made it clear they had been monitoring Beale as a coach for some time. Talked about watching coaches closely and those who are progressing or different things. Also said they had a clear shortlist ready and process of interviews that ignored outside noise of other candidates. All implications, in my opinion, was Beale was on the list at the start and proved best fit after the selection process.

That's all fair mate, I've just never seen what Bob claimed reported anywhere. This is what bothers me, statements are made that Sartori is buying another club when he isn't, KLD is selling the club when he isn't, Alex Neil was stitched up when he wasn't, etc etc etc.

If people stuck to actual facts, instead of making them up, it would help.

 

[FellTop]

That's all fair mate, I've just never seen what Bob claimed reported anywhere. This is what bothers me, statements are made that Sartori is buying another club when he isn't, KLD is selling the club when he isn't, Alex Neil was stitched up when he wasn't, etc etc etc.

If people stuck to actual facts, instead of making them up, it would help.

Here is a fact, we will win 3-1 today.

Mundle and Jobe will score, and Hemir will hit an absolute screamer. Then I will have to eat my hat re Hemir - which I will be delighted to.

As an added bonus a mystery man will be sat next to Speakman, our next head coach.

Would make for a good night on here anyway.

 

[Scout73]

that was said by your new mate KS as if he had done du diligence on him, well if he had he ****ed right up there, look smug admit it, the whole thing since sir Bob moved has been a **** show.
we started to get it right under TM then Speakman ****ed it up.

We started to get things right since Speakman came in tbf, KLD n Speakman have taken us so far forward

I get Speakman isnt everyones cup of tea but the folk who constantly slag him, didnt offer him any praise when he had got things right n always focus on the things hes done wrong

Hes got a lot wrong this season and my opinion of him has definitely soured this season but hes also got a hell of a lot right since coming in

Who knows if he'll still be here in the summer but if he is its make or break for him this summer

 

[Bob the Mackem]

In balance more wrong than right, what happens if we get beat today????

 

[Bob the Mackem]

Speakman made it clear they had been monitoring Beale as a coach for some time. Talked about watching coaches closely and those who are progressing or different things. Also said they had a clear shortlist ready and process of interviews that ignored outside noise of other candidates. All implications, in my opinion, was Beale was on the list at the start and proved best fit after the selection process.

How did that work out.
Look me and you ain't gonna agree so let's just leave it on this point?

 

[Sour Patch]

In balance more wrong than right, what happens if we get beat today????

What it's by far more right than wrong.

 

[Bob the Mackem]

That's all fair mate, I've just never seen what Bob claimed reported anywhere. This is what bothers me, statements are made that Sartori is buying another club when he isn't, KLD is selling the club when he isn't, Alex Neil was stitched up when he wasn't, etc etc etc.

If people stuck to actual facts, instead of making them up, it would help.

It was said by KS when he introduced Beal

 

[Bob the Mackem]

What it's by far more right than wrong.

That's why we are in this position?

 

[young2077]

In balance more wrong than right, what happens if we get beat today????

We get 0 points? Sorry couldn't resist!

 

[Bob the Mackem]

New seat time with a pie and a bovril.

 

[The Norton Cat]

That's why we are in this position?

Things haven't gone as well this season as the previous two seasons but that's due to a combination of factors. Some of Speakman's decisions have been wrong but you can't blame injuries and loss of form on him. It's not been the season we all expected based on last season but its hardly a crisis.

 

[Sour Patch]

That's why we are in this position?

Mid table in the championship? Yeah results at the moment are dreadful but **** happens in football, every club goes through **** like this it's not a Sunderland specific problem. Look at actual precedent, look at where the clubs we came up with are now, yes Ipswich are doing great this season but i'm really doubtful they go up and then what happens to them next season? Why do you give him so much **** when he's quite literally dragged the club from the grave your mates were digging. You never, ever give Donald/Methven even close to the same amount of stick you give the current regime. Maybe it's because they actually gave you the attention you so clearly crave whereas the current regime see you for what you are.