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we didn't egg them on it started all on their own .

though the constant expansion eastwards by both NATO and EU was always going to lead to "increased tensions" and was imo reckless

I think this is true. And right up to the point Russia invaded Ukraine I had some understanding for their concerns.

Do you think at this point we could've done more to prevent it? I remember there was a good 6 months at least when everyone could see what was going to happen. Instead of the NATO general publicly goading Russia in Oct/Nov 2021, should the U.S./NATO/EU done more collectively to find a peaceful resolution?

I ask because I think in many cases it's harder to do the difficult thing and seek resolution through negotiation / making compromises and much easier to go to war.
 
I think this is true. And right up to the point Russia invaded Ukraine I had some understanding for their concerns.

Do you think at this point we could've done more to prevent it? I remember there was a good 6 months at least when everyone could see what was going to happen. Instead of the NATO general publicly goading Russia in Oct/Nov 2021, should the U.S./NATO/EU done more collectively to find a peaceful resolution?

I ask because I think in many cases it's harder to do the difficult thing and seek resolution through negotiation / making compromises and much easier to go to war.

Trouble is Trebs it's always easy to fight when someone else is doing the fighting and there is no risk to the life or family of those making decisions or those justifying it. All treated as human garbage.

If there is such a thing as reincarantion, I imagine people being put into the oppositie of their current life, maybe a very young Russian soldier, or Ukranian. God facing them with reality...now what do you prefer jaw or war. Then being turned into the soil for a new apartment block to be built on their remains.

You could apply that same sitution to Gaza and Israel, serve your time as Jew or a Palestinian, then when you die, tell us what you prefer now.

Hopefully Putin and Biden will find such reincarnation with painful consequences, to remind them this is what you put thousands through.
 
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It was a packed house in the Commons that turned into total chaos, so much so the Tories and SNP's have walked out in protest. All to do with the Gaza ceasefire motion and over a decision the speaker made earlier today. From some very passionate pleas, now turned into carnage. Labour bench remains and some Tories refused to leave.
 
It was a packed house in the Commons that turned into total chaos, so much so the Tories and SNP's have walked out in protest. All to do with the Gaza ceasefire motion and over a decision the speaker made earlier today. From some very passionate pleas, now turned into carnage. Labour bench remains and some Tories refused to leave.

I've been busy rendering a wall today, so missed PMQ

Sounds feisty

I'll take a look now <ok>
 
I've been busy rendering a wall today, so missed PMQ

Sounds feisty

I'll take a look now <ok>

MPs now voting on whether the house should sit in private I think. Delaying tactics, so they can get this mornings speaker back in the Commons.
 
MPs now voting on whether the house should sit in private I think. Delaying tactics, so they can get this mornings speaker back in the Commons.

Where has the speaker gone lol ?
 
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It was a packed house in the Commons that turned into total chaos, so much so the Tories and SNP's have walked out in protest. All to do with the Gaza ceasefire motion and over a decision the speaker made earlier today. From some very passionate pleas, now turned into carnage. Labour bench remains and some Tories refused to leave.

Thousands dying and these fckers are having a pissing contest. Pathetic.
 
Where has the speaker gone lol ?

Speakers change over during the day, so this is the third speaker today.

Lindsay Hoyle made an annoucement this morning or just before lunch that affected todays proceedings, and because of that, it all kicked off this evening. So now it's delaying tactics I assume until tomorrow morning when it's his shift again.
 
Meanwhile a vote did go ahead, in the knesset.

JERUSALEM, Feb 21 (Reuters) - Israeli lawmakers voted on Wednesday to back Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's rejection of any "unilateral" recognition of a Palestinian state as international calls have grown for the revival of Palestinian statehood negotiations.

How the fck does a separate country, an illegal occupier get to say whether another people have a right to their own country, when it's their land and international law gives them that right.

Like Hamas saying they don't want Israel to exist or Russia claiming parts of Ukraine are theirs... but this is ok <laugh> <doh>

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...n-unilateral-creation-palestinian-2024-02-21/
 
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