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Head Coach Performance

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  1. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

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    exactly, people saying we would look like a bad club and nobody would want the job is just simply not true.
     
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    Well you can certainly see why some fans sit in a row on their own when it’s full in front of them and behind them. <laugh>
     
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    LD19SAFC Well-Known Member

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    0 sympathy here. He shouldn’t have walked away from QPR.
     
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  4. Southern A

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    good point re QPR. That was his proving ground and he made a ****e choice.

    he really shouldn’t have been given a job like this after rangers tho
     
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  5. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    That speaks more about our stupid fans than the coach.
     
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  6. young2077

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    Not a number 1 ever imo, unless he works at a lower level (league 2 maybe 1 at a push) to get the experience etc... learns not to blame everyone in his first few weeks or at least not to the press. Maybe learns a bit more than putting on great coaching sessions.

    But you are right he isn't going to turn down the job is he? I don't think sacking him so soon will work out too well either, unless they give it to Dodds until end of the season. They will struggle to get anyone in as we will look like a poorly tun club.
     
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  7. The Norton Cat

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    I think this idea that he doesn't know what to do as the top man is a bit wide of the mark, to be honest.

    Plenty of people have taken on the manager/head coach job with only minimal prior experience. Steven Gerrard and Pep Guardiola for example. Beale has had much more experience in coaching/management than either of those two had, so should understand the job much better. You don't say to the apprentice/graduate (delete as applicable) at work "don't aim for the top job, son; you're on the bottom rung of the ladder now so you can only get to the third one".
     
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  8. LD19SAFC

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    …then it’s time he proved himself, isn’t it? He’s been a joke so far, as expected.
     
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  9. marcusblackcat

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    The way I see it, Mowbray, Advocaat and Poyet all “got” SAFC. All understood us as fans. From watching and listening to Beale, I’ve felt disconnected.

    It might nit be how it is, it’s just how I feel about him.
     
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  10. The Norton Cat

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    He hasn't though, that's nonsense.
    Its all very well saying "he should have done this or he should have done that". If we can see it, he sure as hell can see it. You have to ask why he hasn't done it. And the reason won't be just because he felt like it.
     
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  11. ChunkFTM

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    He’s more than likely taking the piss but even still I completely see his point. Fans are unhappy. They will never want Beale. A run of bad results will no doubt see him gone as fan discontent will be to much. People will not bother renewing. I’d take losing the next few so he’s gone sooner. Rather than putting a small run together only for us to be back at square one a few weeks later. It’s just delaying the inevitable
     
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  12. The Norton Cat

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    I'm not sure that I see quite the same thing. I don't particularly warm to him as a bloke, but I don't really think I'd want to go for a pint with Speakman either. So I kind of understand where you're coming from.

    I'll defend him against the rubbish people are talking about him though, whether I think we'd be mates or not (I'd definitely have been mates with Dick Advocaat, mind!).
     
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  13. LD19SAFC

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    He just isn’t good enough. Shouldn’t be anywhere near SAFC.
     
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  14. TeamOfTalents

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    Come on man, can't be teasing like that :emoticon-0121-angry
     
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  15. Brainy Dose

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    Yep,a few around me in the East Stand. They moan like **** at the first misplaced pass,disappear for a piss and a pint 5 mins before half time and leave 10 mins from the end if we're winning, 15 mins if we're getting beat.
     
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    If he can see the issues then I'd love t know why he isn't doing something about it, no matter the opposition it is same formation, same tactics, players needlessly out of position. Even the substitutions are like for like other than when it gets desperate on 85+ minutes, even then the worst performing players stay on the pitch.
     
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  17. Nathan Brazil

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    Sack him now.
    See a mistake, rectify a mistake.
    Be seen as decisive.

    (Obviously this only applies if you've made your mind up his appointment was a mistake)
     
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  18. The Norton Cat

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    Well, he is changing things- it was a different shape in midfield against Hull than it was against Ipswich.

    The obvious answer is that something that's happened in training or behind the scenes has led him to believe that, for example, Ba and Pembele aren't ready to play a full 90 minutes. He's privy to much more information about the players than we are.

    The only real question mark is why Jobe can't be dropped.
     
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  19. Daz

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    All I saw against Hull was he had Jobe and Pritchard fighting for the same space, while the latter had to also try and cover the right wing somehow.

    Like you say Jobe is the real question currently.
     
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  20. Brainy Dose

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