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Head Coach Performance

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Downeys Loup, Jan 20, 2024.

  1. The Redbaron

    The Redbaron Well-Known Member

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    Keep on saying it..he was available and the cheap option.
     
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  2. Ronsafc

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    i was in west stand and did not sing but heard it loud and clear from south stand, a lot of people around me were grumbling about Beale and his tactics
     
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  3. Mackem74

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    Did Peter Reid have a track record, did Roy Keane? Alex Neil just got sacked after less than a year at Stoke as he was an abject failure and they hated him. There are no guarantees with anything. The bloke at Ipswich is doing okay and he's got no track record. So stop talking ****e
     
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  4. Hudson92

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    I’m not defending Beale, it’s been poor in his short spell to say the very least, just worry if we get a rep for quick fire sackings it will put potential coaches off, I could be way off with that but it is a concern
     
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  5. Chunksafc

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    I'm going to say it and will probably regret it but unless we bring in suitable ready to go cdm, striker and possibly a left back we are going to struggle no matter who is in charge.

    These will cost money, unfortunately that's the way of the world, but without them we are in for a bumpy ride till the end of the season no matter who is in charge
     
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  6. Coastal Dolphins

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    Peter Reid had finished 5th or 6th in the top flight with man city.
    Keane was his first job but had huge standing in the game as a leader of one if the best teams in Europe.

    You are waffling away but know little it seems.
     
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  7. The Norton Cat

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    It is absolutely ridiculous because prior to the derby, the results were better than the last few results of the Mowbray era. Following the derby, which we weren't going to win anyway, we have had two narrow losses. In one of which we dominated possession and had more shots on target. We are not a top of the table side so those results shouldn't be unexpected. Us and Hull are always going be capable of beating each other with our current squads. So criticism of him on the basis of results is a huge overreaction.

    The performances haven't been great and the football hasn't been pretty but Beale has been hamstrung by the players that he's had available. That would have been the same no matter who the coach was. Those screaming that Beale is useless refuse to consider those factors.
     
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  8. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.
     
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  9. Tommyplease

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    I don’t know what his football was like at Rangers, but we’ve gone from a high press energetic team to sitting 20 yards deeper

    We don’t have the physicality in both boxes to play this football. If this is his playing style I don’t understand why he was targeted for this group of players. It’s like Parky all over again

    Were probably great at rondos in training though
     
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  10. Chunksafc

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    It's cold hard truth. No doubt I will be accused of wanting us to throw money around, having a dig at the owners etc

    But the fact is we are short on experience, lacking in key areas and to address that will need some form of financial input
     
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  11. FellTop

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    I have seen you call posters clueless earlier. I dont go in for aggressive posting too much. But in my opinion this is as clueless as it gets. I value everyones opinion, including yours, but it seems to me you are on a mission. I find you a bit OTT.
    We are already an unattractive option mate. Im my opinion anyway. I still do bits and pieces of coaching in pro clubs and the general consensus on the Mowbray sacking is we were very hasty. All these polls or votes on the internet make us look desperate in my opinion. I can see no good reason an highly regarded head coach would come here anymore. We have blown that chance for the moment. They can sack Beale if they want, but it will have to be an out of work bloke like Nathan Jones or Heckingbottom, and they will need to pay.
     
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  12. Prehab26

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    That will be the least of our worries if this continues. The levels of toxicity will just ramp up and up. Once the home end has had their fill, it's over. That's why the appointment was so destined to fail and a very poor one. Incredibly poor. Just not a good fit.

    People saying it doesn't matter where he is from, how he speaks. I say it does. It does when on the pitch it goes south and we all have to watch and listen to his absolute weak, bluffer bull in front of the cameras. We all know people from the north east don't put up with such nonsense, and that's enough for some on the fence to say it's time already.

    He past record is poor and he simply isn't a head coach. A number 2. A behind the scenes cone man.

    Would it look random / poor to fire a head coach already ? Yeah probably, but that's what you get when you make such a pathetic appointment in the first place.

    Rest assured , if this carries on, they will do it anyway when season ticket renewals come around and the backlash will be there for all to see.
     
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  13. The Norton Cat

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    Peter Reid was sacked by City because his team were losing every week and the football was awful.
    I totally agree. I still think KLD will get us back to the Premier League. It might not be immediately though. If he wants the club to be sustainable we might have to wait for him to spend money. Saying that spending money on the players we need is the way to improve the team isn't digging the owner out though as far as I can see.
     
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  14. Hudson92

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    Genuinely agree with everything you say there, I’ve never seen anything so destined to fail in my life, Saturday could be like Friday from the off
     
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  15. Coastal Dolphins

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    OK I'm going to back off for a bit after this post as you are probably right - we are possibly unattractive to lots of managers because they can't bring their own coaching team?? Just a thought.
     
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  16. Chunksafc

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    Mate I would love nothing more than our club to be fully self sustainable, not dependant on anyone, but to get there money has to be spent on all areas of the club, especially now when we are missing at least 2 key players.

    Speculate now and who knows we may still make the play offs and potentially promotion, it won't bankrupt the club or put us in ffp strife
     
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    Rooney was sacked after 15 games at Birmingham, does everyone now think Birmingham are a shocking club?
     
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  18. Prehab26

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    I would love us to go and win the next 18 games mate but even if we go on a little run, when the downswing happens , this will come back again. That's why it was such a poor appointment in the first place.

    But aye if Stoke take the lead or go a couple up, will be really toxic.
     
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  19. FellTop

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    Definitely part of it I would say. Coaches work in teams, with a guy at the top making the big calls. Beale is the guy at the top but I wonder just how much he has gelled yet with the other 3 lads. Does he have the guy he can have that 1-1 with about his own doubts? He probably needs his own Mark Venus.
     
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  20. TonyG

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    It’s this kind of crap as well that gets me. F&ck wanting Sunderland to lose <doh>
     
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