Match Day Thread Plymouth Argyle FC v Sunderland AFC – Saturday 25th November 2023 - KO 15:00

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Mackem-Tiz said:
It's not cos we have lost a game of football tho. You are the ultimate happy clapper! The squad of talent we have at this level is amazing!
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Eh...for thinking that people wanting the manager sacked is crackers?
Aye, OK.
 
Mackem-Tiz said:
It's not cos we have lost a game of football tho. You are the ultimate happy clapper! The squad of talent we have at this level is amazing!
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The desperation of the man who resorts to insulting anyone who disagrees with his shoddily put together opinions
 
TopCat_ said:
So, if last season was a dreadful championship (implying that this season is better than dreadful) then surely us having more points/goals etc this season is an even bigger positive?
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Have you went back and had a look at how poor we were at the start of last season? I’d be shell shocked if we were to start this one worse. Go and knock yourself out..

Matter of fact is the way we are going we won’t even make play offs. You all think our players are top drawer so surely it can’t be them at fault so who’s in the wrong here? Players are all so good they can’t be faulted, manager is apparently the best we can get at this level and we also can’t fault him so who’s to blame??

Please enlighten me..
 
We will finish lower than last season. We don't have Amad to bail out our failings in the 9.
 
Random lad said:
We have not got a good striker, it is as simple that
The manager is being asked to perform miracles without a good centre forward, ridiculous
This has been going on for ages , it is barmy, simply cannot get my head around it
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Sorry but that’s absolute bollocks. Our squad is more than good enough, the manager refuses to believe in a striker. He’s got 4 of them sat on the bench.
 
WorkyTicketFTM said:
Have you went back and had a look at how poor we were at the start of last season? I’d be shell shocked if we were to start this one worse. Go and knock yourself out..

Matter of fact is the way we are going we won’t even make play offs. You all think our players are top drawer so surely it can’t be them at fault so who’s in the wrong here? Players are all so good they can’t be faulted, manager is apparently the best we can get at this level and we also can’t fault him so who’s to blame??

Please enlighten me..
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Think you must be quoting the wrong poster here because none of the ideas you hold about my opinions are accurate
 
Just a point from this game would have put us 2 places higher in 7th. It’s one area that bugs me, in that we need to get better at scraping a draw in games like today. This ability might be a difficult thing for a young side to acquire though - maybe it’s only learned with plenty of experience.
 
TopCat_ said:
It's also a far stronger league this year. That much cannot be ignored. The general direction of traffic at this club is hugely encouraging
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I think so too but I don't feel we have invested sufficiently and in the right players. We have lots of nice players however, lacking in actually impact.

Insanely, we are heading into December and no strikers have a goal. We still don't know what to do with Jude. We still play 09 at centre back. I think if we fixed those things , we would be right up there. Issue is, it's right down the spine of the team. We don't have a 9 and 10 who know each other, massive issue. Tone still think just dropping 5 players on as sub will work, it doesn't.

I think Tone will see the out the season, unless we plummet into Jan. But it will be someone new to take out young team forward.
 
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Robertson said:
Just a point from this game would have put us 2 places higher in 7th. It’s one area that bugs me, in that we need to get better at scraping a draw in games like today. This ability might be a difficult thing for a young side to acquire though - maybe it’s only learned with plenty of experience.
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Very soft through the spine. It's a massive weakness.
 
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Prehab26 said:
I think so too but I don't feel we have invested sufficiently and in the right players. We have lots of nice players however, lacking in actually impact.

Insanely, we are heading into December and no strikers have a goal. We still don't know what to do with Jude. We still play 09 at centre back. I think if we fixed those things , we would be right up there. Issue is, it's right down the spine of the team. We don't have a 9 and 10 who know each other, massive issue. Tone still think just dropping 5 players on as sub will work, it doesn't.

I think Tone will see the out the season, unless we plummet into Jan. But it will be someone new to take out young team forward.
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Sorry mate I disagree. Our squad is more than good enough to be beating the likes of Plymouth, a squad that have spent nothing and largely made up of L1 players. This squad should be competing at the top of the table.

The manager is playing players based on favouritism and refusing to believe in a striker. Ipswich are 2nd in the league with Morsy and Loungo in the middle, Hirst up top, burns and harness wide yet our fans think all of our midfielders are too good for the championship..? It’s laughable.
 
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WorkyTicketFTM said:
Sorry mate I disagree. Our squad is more than good enough to be beating the likes of Plymouth, a squad that have spent nothing and largely made up of L1 players. This squad should be competing at the top of the table.

The manager is playing players based on favouritism and refusing to believe in a striker. Ipswich are 2nd in the league with Morsy and Loungo in the middle, Hirst up top, burns and harness wide yet our fans think all of our midfielders are too good for the championship..? It’s laughable.
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Not sure we disagree. I also think Tone is not doing enough.
 
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Prehab26 said:
I think so too but I don't feel we have invested sufficiently and in the right players. We have lots of nice players however, lacking in actually impact.

Insanely, we are heading into December and no strikers have a goal. We still don't know what to do with Jude. We still play 09 at centre back. I think if we fixed those things , we would be right up there. Issue is, it's right down the spine of the team. We don't have a 9 and 10 who know each other, massive issue. Tone still think just dropping 5 players on as sub will work, it doesn't.

I think Tone will see the out the season, unless we plummet into Jan. But it will be someone new to take out young team forward.
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Agree re Jobe but we aren't playing O9 as a CB out of desperation/lack of options - it's the choice of the Head coach. We may be lacking in a proven striker, but that's not the approach the club has committed to. We just have to accept it. We are massively missing Evans and the club should have taken steps to rectify that issue
 
TopCat_ said:
Agree re Jobe but we aren't playing O9 as a CB out of desperation/lack of options - it's the choice of the Head coach. We may be lacking in a proven striker, but that's not the approach the club has committed to. We just have to accept it. We are massively missing Evans and the club should have taken steps to rectify that issue
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You’re spot on we are missing Evans but there’s other factors that are handicapping us that seem controllable. We all saw how poor Norwich were a few weeks ago - we’re now just 3 points ahead of them. So we are we THAT bad? Can we just not see it?
 
TopCat_ said:
Agree re Jobe but we aren't playing O9 as a CB out of desperation/lack of options - it's the choice of the Head coach. We may be lacking in a proven striker, but that's not the approach the club has committed to. We just have to accept it. We are massively missing Evans and the club should have taken steps to rectify that issue
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Why do we have to accept that we don't have a striker who is able to score ? That's a massive issue for me. No team gets promoted without one.

Agree its the choice of the head coach, he is making the wrong one. I have said from day 1 , making him captain will be a massive mistake. Undroppable and he needs to be dropped.

Evans, unsure. Not sure he comes back the same player. Will be a yard slower. But again, I said, in the window, not signing a CM blew my mind.
 
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