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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
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    In a world of awful ****s that Adam Brooks is one of the worst. Got himself a following crying about lockdowns closing his pub and now takes the coin to parrot any old **** he’s asked to á la Darren Grimes. Just seems a horrible prick.
     
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    A new treaty would contain a guarantee from Rwanda that it would not send asylum seekers back to their country of origin. Thereafter, Parliament would designate Rwanda a "safe" country.

    Speaking personally, if I was an economic migrant keen to get to a European country and had limited funds, if there was even a small chance of paying thousands to people smugglers and finding myself on a flight to Africa, I'd choose another European country
     
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    So we can just do this can we.

    Even though there is fully documented proof that Israeli deportees to Rwanda uner a similar program were deported to other countries pretty quick ...( BBC report Oct 2022).

    Can we, simply on a whim, declare other places safe to send them too...North Korea, Gaza Strip, Ukraine.

    Solve a lot problems... but doesn't sound democratic...or essentially British does it
     
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    It doesn’t change anything Beth. Anyone threatened with being sent to Rwanda will have solicitors who will appeal, which will take months if not years, and the appeal will be upheld on the basis of the Supreme Court ruling, which explicitly says that despite the evident good faith of the Rwandan government, it cannot be guaranteed that asylum seekers will not be sent to the place they were fleeing from, whatever the Rwandans say. Passing a new law is a complete waste of time as far as I understand it and from what I have read.

    Plenty of Rwandans are seeking asylum from the regime of Paul Kagame (got a surprising 99% of the vote at the last election, for his 3rd 7 year term, democracy in action). Perhaps some of them will seek asylum here, so we can send them to the ‘safe’ haven of Rwanda….oh hang on…

    Of course if you are a fan of the charming Red Tory Lee Anderson your hatred of foreigners will be such that you will agree that a new law is unnecessary, and that anyone who arrives here on a boat should be put immediately on a plane to Rwanda (or, I’m guessing, direct to your grave, for all he cares).

    Meanwhile Starmer gets a bloody nose from his own team on Gaza. Good. Spineless twat.

    I don’t vote because I don’t like this version of democracy. I don’t expect it to change because I don’t like it. But even fans of the system must be, like Uber, at their wits end about who to vote for next time.
     
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    SNP crying for a ceasefire neither side wants and nobody here can influence gets rejected easily. Big ****ing waste of time that was when people could have stayed in and watched Cray Valley Paper Mills v Charlton like me.
     
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    An act of Parliament takes precedent over court judgements. The task of the government will be to anticipate and remove any loopholes in their new statute. Of course, Parliament will have to be persuaded Rwanda will honour its guarantees before designating it safe.
     
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    56 Labour MP's defy Starmer. Muslim influence...?
     
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    I find myself moving towards some form of PR as I get older. Wouldn’t say I’m a huge fan of it, but think some sort of change is needed in order to give some people a voice across the political spectrum.
     
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    I’d like a quasi PR system so we can campaign for it singing “we are QPR”.
     
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    33 days after I voted in the last election we still have no government as the party that won 6% of the vote hasn't come to an agreement with the other two parties that need them for a majority
    A general election is held here every 36 months and we've already lost one of em
    The country's running well without a prime minister or party in charge so maybe it's not a bad thing if they keep ****ing around
     
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    Having said that Jacinda won a majority last time out and did **** all with it
     
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    There's no one to vote for.
    We're increasingly being governed by lawyers anyway.
     
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    Might as well vote for the lawyer.
     
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    So, a pro Palestinian protestor climbs onto the WW1 memorial....

    Should have shot the ****!
     
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    The political system on the other side of the Irish Sea is every bit as bad and next year could get a lot worse (Sinn Fein).

    I haven’t voted in the last 2 Elections as no individual or party now floats my boat.

    I believe having the right to vote also means I have the right not to vote.
     
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