WAR! What is it good for?
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Ambulances carrying seriously injured Palestinians have crossed from Gaza into Egypt for the first time .
A first group of 110 foreign passport holders have also been allowed to leave the territory via the Rafah crossing.
There are 7000 dual nationals in Gaza
Approx 200 British.
Good news.
A first group of 110 foreign passport holders have also been allowed to leave the territory via the Rafah crossing.
There are 7000 dual nationals in Gaza
Approx 200 British.
Good news.
I don't hate Israel ... but I do despise Netanyahu and his ilk, who have now killed over 4,000 children and over 2,000 women as they seek to ethnically cleanse Gaza ...
I've no doubt Hamas would do the same ... and I would despise them just as strongly... but they do not have the capability and a theoretical actions scenario cannot be used as a legitimate excuse for what Israel is doing ...
If Hamas commanders are captured they should be tried for war crimes regarding the events of October 7th ... but so should Netanyahu for events since - the denial of food, water, power and medical supplies is a war crime itself ... and the civilian dead cannot be justified on the basis that Hamas fighters were hiding in the vicinity... killing civilians is still a war crime ... just as Hamas using Israeli citizens as human shields is ...
There's a good bit of journalism here showing IDF have been telling palestinian civilians to go to specific locations and then bombing those sites.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67264703
Despite some genuinely good articles like this, for some reason the BBC is constantly being labelled as "biased" by elements of the clueless British public.
Think they have been consistent throughout this entire thing and incredibly fair. Some of the BBC verified articles have been top notch.
On the BBC homepage you can read a fantastic article about the troubles inside Gaza and one about an attack outside it in Israel. No bias as far as I can see, just the truth.
They've been very balanced tbf.
Always read or listen to Jeremy Bowen btw, he's been reporting on this for decades.
I tend to choose between BBC, Sky and Channel 4 on this conflict although not so much this week.
CH4 had an incredible story about a week ago. Couldn't believe some of the footage they had gotten their hands on.
Strange I've often seen the British Media referred to by many as right wing. Suppose they must move left wing in times of conflict. Although from what I've heard in the past, it's full of Scousers, so who knows what to trust. Some don't even watch the BBC because they don't have a TV licence.
There was one bloke who had good access to the Kibutz areas shortly after the 7th Oct attacks.
Another who I think lives in Gaza with family.
And there was a woman who was just a resident reporting when the bombs were falling.
I think the American ones are largely substandard to the UK.
I disagree strongly with this. Don't turn up to a gun fight with your rocks and catapults or you'll pay for it. Israel knowing what these guys want to do to them have every right to go on the offensive and do it to them first.
On another note, it has now been proved that Hamas are using refugee camps and hospitals as their cover. That gives Israel every right to target these places, now. Hamas are having their own people slaughtered. This is on them.
Israel has every right to massacre civilians because they might hit a Hamas target in the process? Really?
In the North that they've been telling citizens to get away from for the last week telling them they're in an active warzone. If they don't take out these top commanders and fighters when they have the chance, it'll ultimately be the Israeli citizens suffer at their hands, again.
This is all on Hamas.
Why are they telling them to go to locations where Hamas are? Only to bomb them.
FWIW Hamas are using human shields. Israel is taking advantage and bombing them for maximum "collateral damage".
Neither holds the moral high ground, neither is innocent.
They both have blood on their hands.
Neither holds the moral high ground, neither is innocent.
They both have blood on their hands.
Didnt know that has happened, mate. Clearly, that's disgusting, senseless and totally out of order.
Just to quote I posted about it #6505 above.
On a separate point, not necessarily deliberate on Israel's part but shows the complicated nature of what Gazans are dealing with, I posted a live account from a bloke who lost his family a couple of weeks ago...
So Palestinians have only been resisting Israeli suppression and illegal occupations since the creation of Hamas?
No mate - ultimately this is on the West for the original displacement of Palestinian peoples without much thought or compensation followed by the failure to stop subsequent illegal land grabbing by the Israeli state ... Hamas didn't exist at the time of the 6 day war ...
Taking out Hamas (or rather killing many of those that fight under its banner) will not solve the underlying issue - another movement / armed militia will evolve without question, again backed by Iran ... it just won't be based in Gaza ... but it will not stop more deaths in Israel ...