As all these bombings happen, Israel are slowly taking control of Beit Hanoun in Northern Gaza. Simultaneously they're making their way down the coast, southwards and have entered Gaza through the West, Gaza City will soon be absolutely surrounded by physical forces too.
So Israel commiting war crimes. Hamas are committing war crimes. Russia have committed war crimes. Ukraine really are the good guys. We should all throw our weight behind them, again. Volodmymr Zelensky's, blue and yellow army
Been some very astute and erudite debate on this thread ... but also a lot of nonsense... and some obvious confusion about the differences between racism, nationalism and idealism... Personally I have no issues with Jewish people ... nor arab people ... I am fundamentally against terrorism, whether it be religious based, or state terrorism... as such, I am absolutely opposed to Netanyahu and the Israeli state warmongers and I will speak out in support of the need for a sovereign Palestinian state for those disposessed by the establishment of modern Israel in 1948, whilst also championing the need for a Jewish homeland... my fervent hope is that the two can exist side by side in that part of the middle-east in my lifetime... but one thing is for sure ... that will not happen whilst Israel continues with its' program of illegal occupation, suppression and settlements in those territories that it has no right, under International Law, to have a presence in ... Let's be clear, to be disgusted by the ethnic cleansing and slaughter of women and children happening in Gaza right now is not 'rascism' against Jewish people ... there will be plenty of Jewish people that are disgusted by it - not least those who have friends or relatives being held by Hamas in Gaza - the Qataris have revealed that the release of the hostages was all but secured... but then scuppered by the timing of the land invasion ... anybody thinking that it's just unfortunate timing needs to give their head a wobble ... cynical, brutal and calculated - the eradication of Palestinian Gaza is, and always has been, the end game for Netanyahu and Co ...
There has actually been a labour MP dismissd for using this phrase and he has been labled anti semetic even though if you read his speach he actually said Pallistine and Israel from the river to the sea which in my book comes over as unity.
If we’re talking unfortunate timing then the pact between Israel and the Saudis which would have got the whole region closer to the sort of peace some people think is possible was pretty close until October 7th. Maybe Israel aren’t the bad guys.
Point taken ... and what Hamas did certainly gave Netanyahu and his ultimate agenda a popularity boost ... although I sense that is now on the turn for many Israelis as it becomes more and more obvious that he cares very little for the hostages and their families ...
Smoke and mirrors ... does 'They'll always be an England' signify the eradication of another country or just a proud assertion of enduring English heritage? ... might just be me but I see "... from the river to the sea" as a wish / hope / desire for a sovereign Palestine rather than a proclamation for the destruction of Israel ...
Total bull ****e, this has **** all to do with anti semitism (a phrase which is banded about frequently to stop any criticism of Israeli governance), it's not the people or religeon people are disgusted at, it's the regime that is slaughtering thousands of innocent civillians day by day and the indiscriminate way they are doing it. Tell me they didn't destroy a truck load of people trying to evacuate the area on a designated "safe rout", tell me thay haven't carpet bombed civillian areas, tell me they haven't bombed a refugee camp, tell me they haven't stopped food, water. fuel and in some cases aid entering the area. Tell me they don't have the capability to enter the area with tanks and armoured personell carriers full of troops to attack the Hamas tunnels and clear them out without killing thousands of women and children. This is **** all to do with anti semitism, it's about peoples disgust at the total lack of regard for human life. All those distroyed buildings will need replacing though once the land is empty of people, wonder who will fill the new buildings?
they were behind the attack and let the security system fail for 8 hours whilst they watch the attacks take place it was another 9/11 inside job to justify their actions which we are now all witnessing….we all heard Israeli witnesses saying that the idf took out not only Hamas but their own and all 9/11 inside job lost 3000 yank civilians result was hundreds of thousands of deaths in their war on terror we are still waiting for the full extent of this war on terror but it’s gonna be very one sided as it was after 9/11 sabbatean frankist movements clear as day…..but that’s a bit above most of you guys so keep watching the bbc and co spew sabbatean propaganda in the guise of news
