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Poor Pinkie...

I couldn't really give a **** what colour rosette they wear mate. I'm just saddened that MPs who are calling for peace are being chastised for saying so

Sad state of affairs.
 
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I couldn't really give a **** what colour rosette they wear mate. I'm just saddened that MPs who are calling for peace are being chastised for saying so

Sad state of affairs.

Your fake tears don't fool me bro.
 
Your fake tears don't fool me bro.

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Whatever then

I just think it's a sad reflection on politics when MPs calling for peace are quashed. Thought democracy was supposed to be all about listening to different opinions and reaching an informed consensus.

No dissent allowed it seems.
 
ALL Governments should be calling for a ceasefire, at least a temporary one rather than taking sides

I agree, but some on here wanted to point to it as a Tory problem, when it's far from just being that. They wanted to use it as a pinning a rosette on chance. Like I'm sure all the voters will remember their colours at the next GE, I know some might like to convince us otherwise but no amount of deaths will change that, which is the whole hypocrisy of the situation. Well apart from Abe who will refuse to vote. All parties, all governments are equally to blame, but none of those will turn against their favourites when it comes to the ballot paper. So it's all fake tears, from thousands of miles away. Real change only comes when everyone realises that.
 
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This has just popped up on the BBC…


Nine people, including two young children, have been found shot dead in their house in the Russian-occupied eastern Ukrainian town of Volnovakha.

Ukrainian officials say they believe Russian soldiers killed the whole of the Kapkanets family on 27 October for refusing to give them their house.

Russian investigators say two male suspects have been held, saying they are Russian soldiers from the Far East.

Ukraine and Russia have begun separate investigations into the attack.

Photographs have emerged on social media showing blood-splattered and bullet-riddled bodies lying in beds, some of them still locked in an embrace.

Ukrainian ombudsman Dmytro Lubinets said on Monday that "Russians' bloodied hands were involved" in the Volnovakha killings.

"According to preliminary information, the occupiers have killed the whole of the Kapkanets family, who were celebrating a birthday and who had refused to hand their own house over to occupiers from Chechnya," he said on Telegram.

The Ukrainian-controlled Donetsk prosecutor's office, citing preliminary information, said the attackers in army uniforms shot the family dead after their demand to vacate the house had been rejected.

Two children, born in 2014 and 2018, were among the victims, the office added.
 
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This has just popped up on the BBC…


Nine people, including two young children, have been found shot dead in their house in the Russian-occupied eastern Ukrainian town of Volnovakha.

Ukrainian officials say they believe Russian soldiers killed the whole of the Kapkanets family on 27 October for refusing to give them their house.

Russian investigators say two male suspects have been held, saying they are Russian soldiers from the Far East.

Ukraine and Russia have begun separate investigations into the attack.

Photographs have emerged on social media showing blood-splattered and bullet-riddled bodies lying in beds, some of them still locked in an embrace.

Ukrainian ombudsman Dmytro Lubinets said on Monday that "Russians' bloodied hands were involved" in the Volnovakha killings.

"According to preliminary information, the occupiers have killed the whole of the Kapkanets family, who were celebrating a birthday and who had refused to hand their own house over to occupiers from Chechnya," he said on Telegram.

The Ukrainian-controlled Donetsk prosecutor's office, citing preliminary information, said the attackers in army uniforms shot the family dead after their demand to vacate the house had been rejected.

Two children, born in 2014 and 2018, were among the victims, the office added.

proof or fk up <laugh>

just words saf seems you fall for it if it suits <cheers>
 
proof or fk up <laugh>

just words saf seems you fall for it if it suits <cheers>
No problem, mate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67262610.amp

https://keyt.com/news/national-worl...d-in-their-sleep-in-russian-occupied-donetsk/

https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/10...ncluding-two-children-in-occupied-volnovakha/


There you go now stop being a coward and accept that you’ve been made a pure mug of yet again by your conspiracy mates by believing a daft meme you seen on the internet <laugh>


Or you can post the proof that you said you were getting <ok>
 
No problem, mate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67262610.amp

https://keyt.com/news/national-worl...d-in-their-sleep-in-russian-occupied-donetsk/

https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/10...ncluding-two-children-in-occupied-volnovakha/


There you go now stop being a coward and accept that you’ve been made a pure mug of yet again by your conspiracy mates by believing a daft meme you seen on the internet <laugh>


Or you can post the proof that you said you were getting <ok>

that’s not evidence ffs <laugh>
 
Hostages or Prisoners ?

'Israel detains ....1,319 administrative detainees held without trial. That data from the Israel Prison Service is compiled by the Israeli NGO, HaMoked.

But many more Palestinians have been rounded up by Israeli forces since 7 October. The Palestinian Prisoners Club says that some 1,680 people have been arrested from the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, as well as some 4,000 workers from the Gaza Strip who had permits to be in Israel. That brings the total held close to 11,000'

So Israelis held captive are Hostages. Palestinians held captive are 'administrative detainees'


Interesting how the language used defines (and directs) the public on how to see this war/conflict/oppression/genocide (see how it works)
 
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Hostages or Prisoners ?

'Israel detains ....1,319 administrative detainees held without trial. That data from the Israel Prison Service is compiled by the Israeli NGO, HaMoked.

But many more Palestinians have been rounded up by Israeli forces since 7 October. The Palestinian Prisoners Club says that some 1,680 people have been arrested from the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, as well as some 4,000 workers from the Gaza Strip who had permits to be in Israel. That brings the total held close to 11,000'

So Israelis held captive are Hostages. Palestinians held captive are 'administrative detainees'


Interesting how the language used defines (and directs) the public on how to see this war/conflict/oppression/genocide (see how it works)

zionists spinning thy web of lies

see saf for Zionist regurgitation <laugh>
 
So does this mean the original report was false but this one bought and paid for by Starmer with an ex-colleague, is absolutely true?


It means it's all bollocks, but desperate Tory boys like yourself will cling to literally anything that takes the spotlight off the ****-show this country has become under the worst government in history

Hope this helps <ok>
 
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It means it's all bollocks, but desperate Tory boys like yourself will cling to literally anything that takes the spotlight off the ****-show this country has become under the worst government in history

Hope this helps <ok>
I knew Mr Labour would be along to these posts.

Seems like the infighting has already started within the Labour Party, again. Thousands of anti-semites up against thousands of decent people who aren’t racist.

Should be a good watch, tbf <cheers>


More than 35 Labour MPs and 250 councillors have also called for a ceasefire, with around 30 councillors resigning from the party over the leadership's position on the war.

Meanwhile, Andy McDonald has been suspended as a Labour MP, over what the party described as "deeply offensive" comments at a pro-Palestinian rally.
 
zionists spinning thy web of lies

see saf for Zionist regurgitation <laugh>
See Abe for posting that Tony Blair was in court because his conspiracy mates have made him look a cock yet again <laugh>
 
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I knew Mr Labour would be along to these posts.

Seems like the infighting has already started within the Labour Party, again. Thousands of anti-semites up against thousands of decent people who aren’t racist.

Should be a good watch, tbf <cheers>


More than 35 Labour MPs and 250 councillors have also called for a ceasefire, with around 30 councillors resigning from the party over the leadership's position on the war.

Meanwhile, Andy McDonald has been suspended as a Labour MP, over what the party described as "deeply offensive" comments at a pro-Palestinian rally.

silence from the Tory lot…….one thing it shows me is that there’s still a few in labour that have their own opinion and that’s what a democracy should guarantee