Match Day Thread Hull City v Southampton

[Chazz Rheinhold]

3pm Saturday
Tough game. Which Southampton will turn up? Looked bloody good when I saw them then had some bad results.
Hopefully the **** soton turn up.
A tough club to dislike. Perennial underdogs in the PL who have had some great results and some great players over the years.

let’s put them to the sword
City 3-1

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Hull City head coach Liam Rosenior gives blunt Philogene, Delap and Morton transfer assessment
The Tigers boss will be aiming for a first home win in five outings this weekend against Southampton
Barry Cooper

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Liam Delap scored for England in their 9-1 thrashing of Serbia on Thursday (Image: Joe Giddens/PA Wire)
Liam Rosenior believes his methods will achieve success at Hull City in the long term, as he sets about tackling the next batch of games following the October international break, and says without them some of England's top talent would not be calling the MKM Stadium home.

The Tigers boss and his players return to action this weekend after the latest stoppage for internationals and will face the third relegated Premier League club in the opening 12 games with Southampton the visitors to the MKM Stadium on Saturday afternoon.

City sit ninth in the league and are just one point outside the top six and three adrift of Preston in third place, with the Lillywhites due in East Yorkshire later this month, but questions have remained about a style of play which has seen the Tigers go from relegation candidates last season to play-off contenders this season

A 2-2 draw at Millwall last time out saw Rosenior field more questions about City's possession-based approach, and in typically forthright fashion, explained to the London press pack why he remains steadfast in his belief that his style of play will prove successful.



We're going back to my style of play. I speak about the style of play every single game, every single week but I promise you if we don't play like this, I promise you, Jaden Philogene, Liam Delap, Tyler Morton - three England Under-21 internationals, they don't come here, they go somewhere else.

"There's a reason in playing this way, I believe - and there's nothing against the way Gary (Rowett) plays, or the way Middlesbrough play, or the way Southampton play, whoever it is - I believe in my way. I will be adamant. If you're a coach, you have your fundamentals, beliefs, a way of working. It might work, it might not, but I'm going to do it my way and see if it works

it’s a strange article

 

[M88 EVN]

Hull City head coach Liam Rosenior gives blunt Philogene, Delap and Morton transfer assessment
The Tigers boss will be aiming for a first home win in five outings this weekend against Southampton
Barry Cooper

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Liam Delap scored for England in their 9-1 thrashing of Serbia on Thursday (Image: Joe Giddens/PA Wire)
Liam Rosenior believes his methods will achieve success at Hull City in the long term, as he sets about tackling the next batch of games following the October international break, and says without them some of England's top talent would not be calling the MKM Stadium home.

The Tigers boss and his players return to action this weekend after the latest stoppage for internationals and will face the third relegated Premier League club in the opening 12 games with Southampton the visitors to the MKM Stadium on Saturday afternoon.

City sit ninth in the league and are just one point outside the top six and three adrift of Preston in third place, with the Lillywhites due in East Yorkshire later this month, but questions have remained about a style of play which has seen the Tigers go from relegation candidates last season to play-off contenders this season

A 2-2 draw at Millwall last time out saw Rosenior field more questions about City's possession-based approach, and in typically forthright fashion, explained to the London press pack why he remains steadfast in his belief that his style of play will prove successful.



We're going back to my style of play. I speak about the style of play every single game, every single week but I promise you if we don't play like this, I promise you, Jaden Philogene, Liam Delap, Tyler Morton - three England Under-21 internationals, they don't come here, they go somewhere else.

"There's a reason in playing this way, I believe - and there's nothing against the way Gary (Rowett) plays, or the way Middlesbrough play, or the way Southampton play, whoever it is - I believe in my way. I will be adamant. If you're a coach, you have your fundamentals, beliefs, a way of working. It might work, it might not, but I'm going to do it my way and see if it works

it’s a strange article

I've got to be honest, he's doing my head in. I'm at the point where I'm cringing when I'm hearing or reading an interview with him.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

I've got to be honest, he's doing my head in. I'm at the point where I'm cringing when I'm hearing or reading an interview with him.

What does he mean

were going back to my style of play?

and that about they wouldn’t come here if it wasn’t for his style of play?? Delap was at Stoke last season ffs

 

[originallambrettaman]

What does he mean

were going back to my style of play?

and that about they wouldn’t come here if it wasn’t for his style of play?? Delap was at Stoke last season ffs

Delap was at Stoke because of his dad, the minute his dad was sacked, Delap was out of there.

 

[DMD]

The Spitfire was born in Southampton, and first flew from Southampton airport on 5th March 1936.

Southampton is the only city in the UK with a geothermal power station

Clarence Birdseye first tested fish fingers for British eaters in 1955 in Southampton The original filling was herring, but people in Southampton preferred the cod version.

God lives in Southampton. In 1417, England's first-ever dedicated artillery fortification was built in Southampton. God's House Tower

Sir Tim Berners-Lee – the English genius lauded for inventing the World Wide Web – works at the University Of Southampton as a Professor in the Computer Science Department.

Southampton Civic Centre was the first building in the country to have the name Civic Centre

The Mayflower, the famed ship which took the Pilgrim Fathers to America, actually set sail from Southampton. There were in fact two ships - The Mayflower and The Speedwell, which left Southampton together in early August, 1620. However, the smaller Speedwell was soon found to be taking on water, so the two ships diverted to Dartmouth for repairs before setting sail again, only for The Speedwell to spring yet another leak. All the passengers then clambered onto The Mayflower and continued on for Cape Cod in New England that September.

Before jet travel came to the fore, Southampton was the primary access into Europe

Each cruise ship docking in Southampton is worth around £2.5 million to the local economy.

Southampton has the oldest Bowling Green in the world dating from before 1299

Southampton's Cenotaph is the model for the Cenotaph in Whitehall, London.

The Ordnance Survey is based in Southampton.

St Michael's Church has the oldest brass lectern in the country dating from around 1350 and which is in the form of an eagle.

Southampton's Victorian Cemetery is the second oldest municipal cemetery.

Henri Portal, a Huguenot refugee, escaped to Southampton from France and in 1724, in Hampshire, founded Portals, the company that was granted leave to produce paper for Bank of England notes.

Southampton played home matches at Portsmouth's ground, Fratton Park during World War II after a bomb landed on the Dell pitch.

During the 1988/89 season Saints created history by becoming the first club to include three brothers - Danny, Rodney and Raymond Wallace - in a First Division match.

Alan Shearer started his career at Southampton, after being spotted by Southampton scout Jack Hixon. Gareth Bale and Theo Walcott also started out there.
Southampton claim a rivalry with Spurs. Largely based on Spurs nicking "when the saints go marching in".

Graham Souness signed Ali Dia thinking he was George Weah's cousin. Dia regularly tops the list of worst professional footballers and couldn't hold a place in none league sides.

Southampton are the last club to receive the FA cup from the Queen

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Delap was at Stoke because of his dad, the minute his dad was sacked, Delap was out of there.

So not bothered about the style of play etc then

 

[balkan tiger]

What does he mean

were going back to my style of play?

and that about they wouldn’t come here if it wasn’t for his style of play?? Delap was at Stoke last season ffs

Does he mean the style we have been playing, you know the fanning about at the back style is not his way? and we will see something new at the weekend.

 

[FLG]

Does he mean the style we have been playing, you know the fanning about at the back style is not his way? and we will see something new at the weekend.

It's posession based, but the build from the back is not slick enough and gets bogged down under the opposition press.
If our current centre halves were able to receive the ball and take it on the half turn it would improve immeasurably.

 

[Howdentiger2]

I've got to be honest, he's doing my head in. I'm at the point where I'm cringing when I'm hearing or reading an interview with him.

All about him isn't it. Let's be honest we've all worked with/for managers like him. There's a real difference between managers and leaders. LR needs to decide which one he wants to be.

 

[robingram02]

I think how the article is written is a bit misleading. It kind of jumps into what he is saying without providing the direct question, so then it looks like he’s pushing his agenda when he’s asked a direct question about it. I don’t sense he thinks it’s all about him, in every single pre and post match interest he talks up the players. I do find it funny how much he winds some up on here.

 

[originallambrettaman]

I could understand why Brownie rubbed some up the wrong way, I could understand why Bruce irritated some with his 'little old Hull' spiel all the time, I could understand why Shota left everyone baffled (even he didn't seem to know what he was saying most of the time), I could understand why McCann pissed people off with his 'make plan A better' nonsense, but I really don't understand why Rosenior's conviction about the way he wants to play pisses off so many.

We're clearly not the finished article, we need to move the ball quicker, but we've put together a good squad, centred around the way Rosie wants to play and now we need to support him while he gets everyone up to speed (and ideally gets all the best players on the pitch at the same time). Worth remembering, Tufan, Philogene and Morton have only made half a dozen appearances each so far this season.

 

[Howdentiger2]

I think how the article is written is a bit misleading. It kind of jumps into what he is saying without providing the direct question, so then it looks like he’s pushing his agenda when he’s asked a direct question about it. I don’t sense he thinks it’s all about him, in every single pre and post match interest he talks up the players. I do find it funny how much he winds some up on here.

If that is the case, then baz/hull live have stitched him up and made him look like it's all about him, he maybe just needs to learn how to come across better, there is to many I's and my's in such a short space of time. Change the I's to We's and the my's to our's then the article comes across a lot different and much better and looks like he's talking about us as a club/team as opposed to just about him. It's little things but when speaking in such a public industry as football ( or life in general) , the way you speak really can make a difference

 

[springtiger]

Sorry but the average fan can see right through the royal ‘we’ used to divide the responsibility up , it’s happened for years in work . I agree he could be a little more reticent but I can’t knock his conviction , he is asked about the style too often or explains it too often not sure which .needs a good PR man - get Tan to help him

 

[GEvans76]

1-1
But if Ozan plays 2-1 City

 

[AlRawdah]

All about him isn't it. Let's be honest we've all worked with/for managers like him. There's a real difference between managers and leaders. LR needs to decide which one he wants to be.

If we aren’t to play Liam’s brand of football, whose would you suggest while he is our manager?

 

[Howdentiger2]

If we aren’t to play Liam’s brand of football, whose would you suggest while he is our manager?

When have I said we shouldn't play his brand/chosen style etc....

All I've said is there's way to speak in public and as a manager/leader which will help or hinder you ( especially when you're trying to create buy in from some who aren't in favour ). LR doesn't seem to have worked that out yet. He could so easily change how he comes across with just little language/delivery tweaks. Hopefully he has a mentor/someone experienced who he'll listen to that can make him see&realise these things. It'll only improve him in the long term.... If he's willing to listen, take on the advice and learn.

 

[highpeak tiger]

( especially when you're trying to create buy in from some who aren't in favour )

Winning the occasional game at home might help. To be quite honest with you, I no longer listen to a word he says. Everyone is working really hard and everything is Rosie blah, blah, blah,

 

[Benjo]

I don't like reading too much into interviews and personally don't like to cast judgements based on them. I'm not sure what the context of this interview is as it seems quite defensive which seems a little off to me - he's probably commenting on a narrative put to him in question.

That being said, the only time I've heard Rosie in an interview and it genuinely baffled me was a few weeks ago. It was a post-match interview against Bristol City - but his point was that we didn't have a great first half after going 1-0 up because we were trying to score again, trying in too many of our attacking plays as opposed to possession at all costs.

He condemns running with the ball in this moment as well, which is something I wish we did more of (certainly the players not on the ball as well). I think we're 'too safe' and I think we're going to stay 'too safe' based on these words. Ironically it can end up hurting or hampering us by not putting teams to the sword.

All that being said, we're definitely harder to beat, so that's a positive. We'd be harder to beat if we scored more goals though.

 

[highpeak tiger]

I can't help thinking that with a manager like Nigel Pearson, the interviews would be boring but the football would be more exciting and probably more effective.