Match Day Thread Ipswich v Hull City

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Amin Yapusi said:
It was an absolutely perfectly executed tackle, although it was a recovery from a sloppy pass straight to their striker to have an easy 1 on 1 with the keeper.


Other than that, he brought a lot of energy and some good touches, runs and passes. It was a very promising cameo from him and shows it was wrong for people to have written him off.
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Not disputing any of that but was he a vigorous tackler when we first got him, ie always verging on yellow card terrritory?
 
Seri needs benching

Yes he has the ability to make a wonderful pass

But hes too slow, breaks our attacks up too much
Slows the tempo down too much

We need energetic players in the championship
 
Gone For A Walk said:
Delap on the wing!
Coyle LB!
Philogene, Connolly, Delap, Traore effectively a 4 'up top' with Morton & Seri a lot of the time for some reason pressing high. Morton & Seri don't have the pace to get back quickly, coupled with next to no tracking back from the 'up top' 4. It might look adventurous on paper, but it was never going to work, especially against a side like Ipswich. Stupidity. Led to acres of space for them to play through and to break in midfield and out wide.
Rosenior got it so badly wrong and got bum ****ed. I haven't listened to the interview yet, but from the excerpts on here it doesn't sound like he's taken responsibility.
Rosenior's attempt to coach the sort of football so many teams are now trying to play is slow, predictable, restrictive, too negative in the way we keep looking backwards & sideways. Couple that with his inability to improve our attacking play. He really isn't anything special.
Ipswich gave him and us a lesson.
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Great post
 
bradymk2 said:
Seri needs benching

Yes he has the ability to make a wonderful pass

But hes too slow, breaks our attacks up too much
Slows the tempo down too much

We need energetic players in the championship
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Who do we play next to Morton though? We had all summer to recruit another energetic combative midfielder and we didn’t. Instead we play 2 ball players against one of the most dynamic teams in the division
 
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DuaneDarby18 said:
This is an important post. Some people do that for sure. And then those who agree with the style and everything Rosenior does, defend all parts of it. This is where the arguments are starting.

I, on the other hand (and I know lots of others too) are taking a constructive/balanced approach and saying the style does work - but there are elements we are getting very wrong; putting ourselves under unnecessary pressure at the back, pedestrian build-up (would be fine if we were winning) and a serious lack of bravery from our midfielders/forwards. You don’t have to be working in the game to see this.

I know Rosenior says it’s a process. He absolutely deserves time and we should judge him at the end of the season rather than argue whether he is the right man for the job.

But some of us shouldn’t be so sensitive when a suggestion/criticism is made. We will all get some things right and wrong now and again. I honestly believed we would pass Ipswich off the park. Fair play to them and I wish them well (I wouldn’t want to meet them in the playoffs so they can win every game from now on, for me).

On to the next game now. UTT.
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Good post DD. I’m not sure how many people defend all aspects of it. I think most people come across as defensive when there’s a knee jerk reaction to a loss that is over the top.

I love three fact we have an identity and a style developing. But it is just that, developing. I’m really on board with what LR is trying to do, but also get frustrated when a forward pass is rejected to turn back and recycle the ball. I understand when there’s nothing on, but to do it when we have an unmarked forward option really annoys me.

It gets my goat when someone dwells on the ball rather than pinging a quick pass (forward or back) to an unmarked player. Ipswich did that magnificently last night - see a pass, pass it (and with good zip). We see a pass, check there’s not another one, then pass it - it kills the momentum. Drawing on the opposition is different but once they press, get the ball moving!

This is where I hope we get to, we’re on our way but we have to accept it takes time.
 
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Gone For A Walk said:
Don't be so ****ing stupid.
I get pissed off big style. After all these years, I shouldn't but I do. I care, probably too much.
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You said yourself you'd been drafting that post for weeks in your head, so can't have been too pissed off since it was exactly what you were expecting.
 
Plum said:
Didn't see the game last night but a few people saying Sinik could have given a penalty up. Could be mistaken but wasn't that a feature of his game when we first got him? Not necessarily giving pens up but diving into tackles a bit too energetically? A bit like Allahyar does at times.
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Stream I watched had Ipswich commentary and both Ipswich pundits agreed City should have had a penalty
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
You said yourself you'd been drafting that post for weeks in your head, so can't have been too pissed off since it was exactly what you were expecting.
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No I didn't. Like I'd guess many others have, I've been trying to weigh up Rosenior for weeks, and, as posted many times, have said I've been on the fence about him. So meaning that the thoughts that ended up in the post weren't kneejerk but have been bubbling for some time.
I wasn't expecting that last night. I didn't expect Rosenior to set us up like that. I also didn't expect Ipswich to play so much like 'Rosieball' (ha ha) and show us so clearly how far behind and off Rosenior is with it.
Of course I was pissed off, we lost 3-0. Idiot.
-> "So when he says it's not just the team that needs to bounce back against Milwall"
In that posted video he doesn't say that. He does though blame the players "we gave it away cheaply..", "from the 1st minute we weren't at the right level". And of course, as every week, "they are a very good team" (which they are, but he helped them significantly imo).
 
Gone For A Walk said:
No I didn't. Like I'd guess many others have, I've been trying to weigh up Rosenior for weeks, and, as posted many times, have said I've been on the fence about him. So meaning that the thoughts that ended up in the post weren't kneejerk but have been bubbling for some time.
I wasn't expecting that last night. I didn't expect Rosenior to set us up like that. I also didn't expect Ipswich to play so much like 'Rosieball' (ha ha) and show us so clearly how far behind and off Rosenior is with it.
Of course I was pissed off, we lost 3-0. Idiot.
-> "So when he says it's not just the team that needs to bounce back against Milwall"
In that posted video he doesn't say that. He does though blame the players "we gave it away cheaply..", "from the 1st minute we weren't at the right level". And of course, as every week, "they are a very good team" (which they are, but he helped them significantly imo).
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Charming. Can you manage a single exchange without getting personal? It is possible to have a difference of opinion about football without needing to insult the other person in the discussion.
 
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