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Absolute credit to Southgate, it takes a quite an incredible gift to make such a dynamic and talented squad of players look so utterly flat and one dimensional.

Its quite an achievement from him, time and time again.
Been saying this about Southgate for months now and it's amazing how many are prepared to defend him...He's so defensive in his outlook it's embarrassing.
 
The talent is insane mate. We now have the kinda squad France & Spain have had recently and we’ve all gone ‘wow how do you stop those’

Well, we are stopping it for them on our moment it’s so frustrating.

I said after the final defeat against italy that, on one hand, we should be looking for a better manager, on the other, southgate deserved a crack at the world cup. So i was 50/50. After the world cup was the perfect time to replace him/for him to leave. When he decided to stop on i was dissappointed. We have world class players, if we had a world class manager we could win things.
 
Do have to laugh at people using Maguire as the scapegoat mind. Don’t blame the apparent Balon D’or nominees blame the centre back who was rated higher than everyone on the pitch bar Walker <doh>
 
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We could potentially have a lineup like this, but regardless of opposition he is adamant he wants 2 CDM even to the point of playing one of the best current CMs in the world, (Bellingham) LW to accommodate Henderson next to Rice.
Hes an absolute joke of a manager, and holding us up as a nation so much by still being in charge.
 
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if you watch the replay Maguire isn’t at fault tho Guehe goes to follow his man then just stops dead and backtracks into Maguire

Whatever mate, Maguire is a joke and should never be in an england starting lineup. We had Colwill, Tomori and Dunk all on the bench who star for their teams week in week out while he plays over them? He cant even get in Man Utds team anymore when everyine is fit
 
Whatever mate, Maguire is a joke and should never be in an england starting lineup. We had Colwill, Tomori and Dunk all on the bench who star for their teams week in week out while he plays over them? He cant even get in Man Utds team anymore when everyine is fit

But he’s always good for England so why would he drop him? The 3 players mentioned are hardly world class CB’s themselves, Colwill has potential and will be a regular for us but he’s only got 1 season of football behind him. He was playing for the u21s a few months ago. Maguire is a scapegoat, has been for United for ages and now they’re going to do it with England. They had a Fred and McTominay in midfield then blamed Maguire for trying to make something happen because those 2 clowns couldn’t. If you actually watch him play instead of just jumping on the bandwagon you’ll realise he’s not bad at all.
 
But he’s always good for England so why would he drop him? The 3 players mentioned are hardly world class CB’s themselves, Colwill has potential and will be a regular for us but he’s only got 1 season of football behind him. He was playing for the u21s a few months ago. Maguire is a scapegoat, has been for United for ages and now they’re going to do it with England. They had a Fred and McTominay in midfield then blamed Maguire for trying to make something happen because those 2 clowns couldn’t. If you actually watch him play instead of just jumping on the bandwagon you’ll realise he’s not bad at all.

Tell me the last good game he had for England?
 
But he’s always good for England so why would he drop him? The 3 players mentioned are hardly world class CB’s themselves, Colwill has potential and will be a regular for us but he’s only got 1 season of football behind him. He was playing for the u21s a few months ago. Maguire is a scapegoat, has been for United for ages and now they’re going to do it with England. They had a Fred and McTominay in midfield then blamed Maguire for trying to make something happen because those 2 clowns couldn’t. If you actually watch him play instead of just jumping on the bandwagon you’ll realise he’s not bad at all.


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Stop trying to go against the grain and just admit he's shyte ffs..
 
Tell me the last good game he had for England?

As I’ve just mentioned he was our second highest rated player only behind Walker who scored..? He was also the highest rated defender in 4 out of 5 games at the World Cup..

Never mind not going against the grain, I actually watch players for myself and make my own opinion instead of following that of fan accounts who support their club through a firestick :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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Went a little bit further and he had the highest rating amongst our defence in the euros against Italy, Denmark, Germany.. only game he didn’t was ukraine in which he had an 8.3 but shaw got an 8.5 because he had 2 assists.
 
As I’ve just mentioned he was our second highest rated player only behind Walker who scored..? He was also the highest rated defender in 4 out of 5 games at the World Cup..

Never mind not going against the grain, I actually watch players for myself and make my own opinion instead of following that of fan accounts who support their club through a firestick :emoticon-0102-bigsm

You sound abit of a nob tbf mate. Anyone with half a football brain can see how inept Maguire is, which is why he no longer has a regular starting spot for Man Utd who would have been happy to see him go to West ham and lose over 35m on him.

Bringing firesticks up makes you as much of a joke as he is.
 
You sound abit of a nob tbf mate. Anyone with half a football brain can see how inept Maguire is, which is why he no longer has a regular starting spot for Man Utd who would have been happy to see him go to West ham and lose over 35m on him.

Bringing firesticks up makes you as much of a joke as he is.

I sound like a knob because I don’t just jump on the bandwagon and say someone’s ****e without having any evidence whatsoever as to why?

The season before he joined United they conceded 54 goals and finished 6th. His first season there was the season Liverpool won the title, United conceded 36 goals just behind Liverpool and City who we can all admit were in a class of their own, finished 3rd. His second season they conceded 44 and finished 2nd in the league behind City.

The last 2 seasons they’ve been nowhere near that level.

He doesn’t start because ETK doesn’t like him. That doesn’t mean he’s ****e. Started 7 games for United in the PL last season by the looks of it, 6 of them were clean sheets. They managed 17 all season and 6 of them came in 7 games that Maguire started. So they got 11 in the remaining 31 games. I bet that’s tough for their fanbase to accept.

Ever thought you could just be wrong and believe everything a 15 year old tiktokker with an agenda throws at you without even looking into it? Whatever floats ya boat though pal don’t like facts get in the way :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
I sound like a knob because I don’t just jump on the bandwagon and say someone’s ****e without having any evidence whatsoever as to why?

The season before he joined United they conceded 54 goals and finished 6th. His first season there was the season Liverpool won the title, United conceded 36 goals just behind Liverpool and City who we can all admit were in a class of their own, finished 3rd. His second season they conceded 44 and finished 2nd in the league behind City.

The last 2 seasons they’ve been nowhere near that level.

He doesn’t start because ETK doesn’t like him. That doesn’t mean he’s ****e. Started 7 games for United in the PL last season by the looks of it, 6 of them were clean sheets. They managed 17 all season and 6 of them came in 7 games that Maguire started. So they got 11 in the remaining 31 games. I bet that’s tough for their fanbase to accept.

Ever thought you could just be wrong and believe everything a 15 year old tiktokker with an agenda throws at you without even looking into it? Whatever floats ya boat though pal don’t like facts get in the way :emoticon-0148-yes:

I literally couldn't even be ar$ed to read the first 3 words of that rant.

Again tell me the last time you saw Maguire play a good game for club or country Mr football knowledge.?

He got abused by his own fans pre season,hes out his depth and the move to West ham would have done him good to take a step back, but he wanted millions paid from Man U to let him leave.