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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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  1. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Excellent whataboutery :emoticon-0137-clapp.

    Two schools in Wales are affected, compared to 156 in England. Plus of course the Welsh government is heavily dependent on the UK Treasury for funding.

    Sunak is bang to rights.
     
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    Wrong. The two schools you mention are the first to be identified in a review by the Welsh Labour government which will apparently last two weeks. There could be many more. Welsh Labour are only waking up to the problem.

    It cannot be whataboutery when the subject-matter is the same ie RAAC . It's a question of seeing matters in context.
     
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  3. Stroller

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    None of which makes Sunak any less culpable.
     
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    When assessing culpability, you have to set it in context with what other governments are or aren't doing, and have and haven't done in the past.
     
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  5. Stroller

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    You really are ridiculous. Sunak personally made the decision not to adequately fund the rebuilding programme despite being warned of a critical risk to life. How much more culpable could he be?

    Mr Slater said he was “absolutely amazed at the decision made by the Chancellor”.

    Asked to spell out who was the Chancellor, he replied: “Rishi Sunak.”

    "We weren't just saying there is a significant risk of fatality, we were saying there is a critical risk to life if the (rebuilding) programme is not funded," he said.

    "When I was Permanent Secretary in 2018 a concrete block fell from the roof of a primary school so it wasn't just a risk, it was actually starting to happen.
     
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    One civil servant claims he didn't get as much money as he asked for. How many times has that happened? The RAAC issue had been ongoing since at least the 1990's. Every Chancellor of the Exchequer has to deal with a host of priorities.
     
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    Sunak was probably just waiting for his wife to buy a building company before providing the funding.
     
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    The 156 schools in England are just those identified so far, too. Sunak says that 95% of schools are likely to be unaffected, which of course means that 5% probably will be. That's 1,100 schools.
     
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    We wait to see the number. Few will have to close. Some will need ceilings propped for safety. Some schools will have portacabins brought on site while work is carried out. The important thing is that all pupils must be able to attend physical classes.
     
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  10. qprbeth

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    Look it doesn't matter who said what to whom... nowvprobably a 1000 schools are affected....mostly in England

    Everyone knew RAAC had problems after around 30 years if water got in ( I worked at the Royal Free, I knew there was a problem years ago in our roof).


    The rebuilding/rejuvenation plan for schools was put on hold by Gove and Sunak 10 years ago. With it the inspection routine also was put on hold.

    This was a case of " head in the sand" by the Conservative government....as shown by not owning up to the problem in July, thus giving schools 2 months to get a plan together to mitigate the September back to school panic.

    Another example of broken Britain
     
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    Don’t give a toss about the Wagner leader or his vile deputy dying. They will have deserved it. But why did an innocent air stewardess and her pilots have to die? That is the measure of Putin. Stalin and beyond.
     
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    Kelvin Mackenzie didn’t give a toss about the dead Scousers he lied about.
     
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    A bit like Tory-run Thurrock.
     
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    ...and Thurrock's at least as big as Birmingham
     
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    Read the debt was in part due to losing a massive pay dispute they’d inherited from the previous administration. Council funding being ****ed probably won’t help either.
     
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    Surprised every council isn't bankrupt to be honest.
     
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    Birmingham Council brought in pay restraints...in July. Councillors that are not business people pretending to be business people and being utterly irresponsible with other people's money. And that applies to most councils that go bankrupt and we all have to bail these negligent ****ers out.
     
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    Thurrock managed to rack up £1.5bn of debt, though.
     
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    The borrowing was £1.5bn, deficit £500m. Birmingham may make that look small. But same principle, political pygmies acting out the role of businessmen and failing abysmally
     
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