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Off Topic The baby killer

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  1. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    As you have worked in mental health, I'll ask you the question, would it be possible for her to have multiple personalities? Unfortunately the evil one gained control and no one spotted it, or helped her control it? Therefore maybe a jail sentence is more appropriate to a death penalty, but to what gain? Its a difficult debate, but one that should be discussed. Hopefully the truth will come out and also, those that managed her, should also be arrested.
     
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    A lot of cash will be spent on keeping her safe though.

    It won't all work, and she'll get a hiding or two. But every day would be fine by me.
     
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  3. Vincemac

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    There is quite a big % of women in prison for similar offences
    She will not be mixing much with the short sentence prisoners
    And yes she will be protected as will the rest of them type of prisoners
    If these prisoners are assaulted some poor member of staff will be having to answer questions
    These women are very dangerous and have a tendency to play mind games
    Let’s just keep them in prison for as long as we can
     
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  4. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    But what if she is innocent?
     
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  5. C Montgomery Burns

    C Montgomery Burns Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a psychologist or have worked in that field, but she might have Munchausen by proxy. It's a mental disorder defined as
    "a condition in which a caregiver creates the appearance of health problems in another person, typically their own child. This may include injuring the proxy or altering test samples. The caregiver then presents the proxy as being sick or injured. Permanent injury or death of the proxy may occur as a result of the disorder". Typically it's either for a sense of power or to be seen as a "hero" by helping to try and resuscitate them and attract attention to themselves. Some, though, especially America, do it for financial gain (donations, go fund me and so on). I guess we'll only find out when the psychiatrists get to her. This, if it's true, in no way excuses her for what she's done, but it might help us understand why. To me it's unfathomable that anyone could do such a thing, and I hope she rots in prison for a very long time.
     
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  6. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    That was though about Maxine robinson however she did confess in the end
    As most of these evil women do
    I repeat there very dangerous people
    Imo women are more dangerous than men and very manipulating
     
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  7. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    Not according to the courts
    And that’s what we have to adhere too
     
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  8. C Montgomery Burns

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    Never a truer word said. Myra Hindley played on being the naive girl influenced by and terrified of the evil Brady and suckered people like Longford into believing it. Yet people who knew her before meeting Brady have said she was often an unpleasant, nasty bitch and she got as big a kick out of their crimes as he did.
     
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  9. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I new Myra very well
    Not realy difficult to manage if you new how too
     
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  10. rooch 3

    rooch 3 Well-Known Member

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    Not a great advert the courts mate.
     
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  11. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    A know mate but is there any other way
     
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  12. rooch 3

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    Not that I know of mate, I said this before in an earlier post. I would still prefer to be tortured for 10 years than be hung and dead. Not the best of choices though is it?
     
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  13. FellTop

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    I dont know where I stand really on the death penalty. I used to be in favour, but with the progression of science we see lots of convictions overturned, often many years after. In America they have something called the innocence project where lawyers work pro bono on cases which if went to trial now would produce different outcomes. Often it is DNA or similar scientific techniques that can prove innocence. DNA techniques 10 years ago were not what they are now and new methods are producing different answers. A big thing is false confessions too, which is now accepted as something that occurred in circumstances where police interrogations were flawed. It is not uncommon for some of these to be death row inmates.

    In cases where it is cast iron and irrefutable maybe so. I am just not so sure how many of those cases there are in reality.
     
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  14. rooch 3

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    I’m the same mate, but I was thinking more in the case of Lee Rigby where he is on cctv killing the lad, for me he wouldn’t even get to court, I would just take him away shoot and bury him, all he deserves.
     
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    That is a perfect example of zero doubts. I agree with you. There was a story recently of some fella killing his wife live on the internet I think I heard. Same for him, no doubts.
     
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    I think if you have enough evidence to prove it then it shouldn't even have a defence. Anyone who is horrible to kids or defenceless animals needs hung. Cant blame mental health issues on being atteacted to children. However all this AI technology opens up doors to people being framed without proof.
     
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  17. 123Daveyboy

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    I think if you were tortured just the once you would soon change your mind.
     
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    Suppose, in every case there is that possibility - even in the face of overwhelming evidence - that a person is innocent. Not for a second suggesting this monster is innocent, but there are examples, Andrew Malkinson being one of them where someone is convicted incorrectly. You can release someone from jail, but not from the grave.

    I also think that death is the easy way out for some of these animals. Let them rot in a rat infested jail
     
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    It would be a moot point if prison was a genuine punishment rather than the mild inconvenience it seems to have become.
     
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  20. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    The purpose of the prison is not to punish
    It Is to remove them from society and look after them in a care and human fashion
    Ohh and that’s not the official code
     
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