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  1. Late goal Scorer

    Late goal Scorer Well-Known Member

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    Set rates aren’t they? Substantially lower than private representation. The right to representation isn’t even remotely related to whether it is deserved individually. The right is given to all, thankfully.
     
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  2. rowley

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    Everyone needs a defence, or we'd be back hundreds of years when we were all at the whims of the local Lord of the Manor, travelling judges and local Grand Juries, (which were at least an improvement on what had went on before them).

    Whether or not the brief will have expended him or herself entirely in the face of towering evidence is another thing.

    As is the money grubbing of many lawyers in the Human Rights courts. It often resembles an outright racket, and a competition on how much legal aid can be fleeced from a public who look askance at their behaviour.

    It is not as if there were no rights before we signed up to the EHCR, which we did after the war to encourage others. Rights have not been their gift, and are no better here for it's existence.

    But everyone must have a defence. As they say, "It could be you."
     
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  3. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

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    There are many other like this, and the system closing ranks is a shocking sight.
     
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    Didn’t know it was set , but I’m sure it’s a canny earner - enough to tempt. any lawyer to go for it. As you say , we do need to have this system for all
     
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  5. rooch 3

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    Have they not had their defence before the out come of the trial? Or do they keep getting defended until they are released or die?
     
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  6. rowley

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    The trial is where they present their defence.

    After that, other than some evidence which makes the conviction unsound being unearthed later, it is just about pleading for release down the line sometime.

    She is only the fourth woman on a full life sentence. She won't be getting out.
     
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  7. monty987

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    They get shoved in a nuthouse at the tax payers expense, the ripper was costing us about £600 a week, they could experiment on these with new drugs.
     
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  8. Oliver's Army

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    Is she dead yet?
     
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  9. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    So would I, happy to carry it out, free also
     
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  10. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    Did you mean £6,000
     
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  11. Wayne the Punk

    Wayne the Punk Well-Known Member

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    My heart bleeds for the bitch, should reap what she has sown
     
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  12. rooch 3

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    As I wrote earlier,

    Ian Harvey former medical director has taken early retirement with a £1.8 million pension. If I was one of those parents I would hunt the bastard down.
     
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  13. Oliver's Army

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    Rumours she's been slashed and rushed to hospital.
     
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  14. LD19SAFC

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    Good…
     
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