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[Zanjinho]

i don't think thats really fair.

Ox: 0.3 of a player at best
Keita: 0.2?
Milner yes his loss is a lot of flexibility but again injured a lot at times so 0.75
Fabinho: yes a loss but could be blessing for us
Henderson: **** him and **** mane tow the pair of sportwashing gimps
Arthur: come on
Carvalho: never played at best 0.25 of a player for goal v Newcastle!
Firmino out. we have 5 senior forward of talent plus doak. lets be fair and knock this out out.

I'd call that about 4 players really lost. we bought 2 in. we are trying for no 3.

My view is simply that 7 sort of midfielders really actually boils down to 3 in milner, henderson and fabinho and they should have been replaced a year ago. I'm more than happy that we have a couple young lads who can contibute more than unfit **** like arthur, ox and keita could do.

I wish we had culled the herd over the past 2 seasons to not be 5th and in europa but them's the breaks.

Right now if pushed I'm more concerned with our systems and team shape than us not being finished buying yet.

Midfield:

I happen to really think bajectic is good. Lavia added would be a very young pairing for no 6 slot.
I think macallister and jones at LCM is good
I think everyone will love szoboszlai over time. I still think Elliott is not a cm but he is the option there.

Thiago might or might not stay the year.
morton probably wont go on loan til january so is an option ( he's not bad)
Clark is a bit inexperienced so he's one to wait for
McConnell has put hismefl forward as a young lad who will want a loan

its terrible to have 6 really cheap players like bajcetic, jones, elliott, morton, clark and mcconnell what i beleive is less than 6 million pounds total. The other 3 represent 110million investment

You're wasting your time mate. It's definitely seven world class star players out

 

[Zanjinho]

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Stick Lavia in there and it doesn't look too bad.

RCM and RB maybe a little weak

(Phillips as left though so LCB isn't correct)

 

[saintanton]

Which has been Klopp's stance since day one; he openly said he doesn't like having multiple plans, he rather perfect the preferred plan

I was just about to write something similar.
I think a little more flexibility wouldn't hurt, but that's the way he plays it.

 

[Milk..]

Which has been Klopp's stance since day one; he openly said he doesn't like having multiple plans, he rather perfect the preferred plan

And that can be frustrating for the fan when it's clear the plan isn't working, as it wasn't the first half of last season... We didn't start doing better until he switched it a little.

 

[Milk..]

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Stick Lavia in there and it doesn't look too bad.

RCM and RB maybe a little weak

(Phillips as left though so LCB isn't correct)

And RCB and LCB both look weak.
Why did I think Thiago had left?

Not sure I like Jones starting. He's great cover but not sure he's as good as the rest of the starting XI.

 

[saintanton]

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Stick Lavia in there and it doesn't look too bad.

RCM and RB maybe a little weak

(Phillips as left though so LCB isn't correct)

A specialist DM and a RB and it's decent as it stands. An RCB (I assume that's what you meant) would help but isn't crucial. Provided we don't get too many injuries of course, that's the real worry.
Like mito, I'm more concerned with the system we seem to be trying to force onto them.

 

[saintanton]

And RCB and LCB both look weak.
Why did I think Thiago had left?

Not sure I like Jones starting. He's great cover but not sure he's as good as the rest of the starting XI.

He was one of the better players during our late rally last season.

 

[Zanjinho]

A specialist DM and a RB and it's decent as it stands. An RCB (I assume that's what you meant) would help but isn't crucial. Provided we don't get too many injuries of course, that's the real worry.
Like mito, I'm more concerned with the system we seem to be trying to force onto them.

No, I meant RCM. Morton is very young and really untested. I'm not convinced about Elliott in that position.

Plus, a better option here could free up AMC should we wish to play him LCM or DM at some point [HASHTAG]#options[/HASHTAG]

Edit; although I think Zobo and AMC need switching in that image

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

We can't have two of equal quality in every position, so injuries are bound to cause more problems in some areas than in others. Which is why versatile players are always a good idea.

I agree. Its also fine to have really good young players as well.

IMO we miss milner most of all.

I can't wait to see eventually what % of these young players we actually get into proper first team roles.

• Davies (i think he will be really good)
• Pitaluga (needs to grow a bit, is highly rated in the club)
• Ramsay (loaned due to injuries)
• Bradley (lets see, i am not sure on this one)
• Mabaya (injured for a year but another well thought of as RB/RW)
• Quansah (another loan i think)
• Chambers (needs to grow as well, I think a loan will occur)
• Clark (decent but again slight)
• Morton (full decent championship season in him, can pass but also slight)
• Mcconnell (nice looking young player there)
• Bajectic (really good shot)
• Doak (everyone is excited now)
• Gordon (really forgotten man here)

With Elliott and Jones already doing a job for us it really shows what FSG and the club have been targeting on the longer term. 8 of those were all SIGNED into the academy rather than coming up as u8/u10 or whatever.

Basically there's 240million of investment in the forwards what we have put in place and about 200million of this in the past couple of seasons.

we'd all like another 200mil into the midfield but its not happened and we have 2 or 3 more players there coming through

 

[Zanjinho]

And RCB and LCB both look weak.
Why did I think Thiago had left?

Not sure I like Jones starting. He's great cover but not sure he's as good as the rest of the starting XI.

The CB backups aren't great but they're not terrible (as backups) either. Trouble is, Konate, Matip and Gomez are all injury prone.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

they know it as we've gone back in 3 times (according to them most likely)

If we have really done that then it strongly suggests we really don't have a plan B

Incidentally the flumenise (sp?) team won last night so that guy is off the table til january.

We may have made bids all over the place and the other clubs have kept quiet but Southampton feels the need to leak their side every five minutes. We certainly haven't been pronouncing every bid we've put in, we never do.

 

[Zanjinho]

I agree. Its also fine to have really good young players as well.

IMO we miss milner most of all.

I can't wait to see eventually what % of these young players we actually get into proper first team roles.

• Davies (i think he will be really good)
• Pitaluga (needs to grow a bit, is highly rated in the club)
• Ramsay (loaned due to injuries)
• Bradley (lets see, i am not sure on this one)
• Mabaya (injured for a year but another well thought of as RB/RW)
• Quansah (another loan i think)
• Chambers (needs to grow as well, I think a loan will occur)
• Clark (decent but again slight)
• Morton (full decent championship season in him, can pass but also slight)
• Mcconnell (nice looking young player there)
• Bajectic (really good shot)
• Doak (everyone is excited now)
• Gordon (really forgotten man here)

With Elliott and Jones already doing a job for us it really shows what FSG and the club have been targeting on the longer term. 8 of those were all SIGNED into the academy rather than coming up as u8/u10 or whatever.

Basically there's 240million of investment in the forwards what we have put in place and about 200million of this in the past couple of seasons.

we'd all like another 200mil into the midfield but its not happened and we have 2 or 3 more players there coming through

It's all about those two really.

Bit concerned with how excited people are getting about Doak ATM; hope it didn't go to the lads head. We've seen it far too many times before when a young players looks a potential work beater to them just completely fall away.

 

[johnsonsbaby]

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Stick Lavia in there and it doesn't look too bad.

RCM and RB maybe a little weak

(Phillips as left though so LCB isn't correct)

Phillips hasn't actually left yet. I think Leeds have enquired, or whatever the term is today but he's still here.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

It's all about those two really.

Bit concerned with how excited people are getting about Doak ATM; hope it didn't go to the lads head. We've seen it far too many times before when a young players looks a potential work beater to them just completely fall away.

Or we've another sterling. the last kid that i recall that we had fans basically on the edge of their seats the second he touched the ball on debut. It was ridiculous how much he was waited for.

hopefully its neither but he's moved from Celtic to get his big shot so we have to cover the club and treat him like any other foreign mercenary. (BTW he will be one of 17 foreign players in europa squad)

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

We may have made bids all over the place and the other clubs have kept quiet but Southampton feels the need to leak their side every five minutes. We certainly haven't been pronouncing every bid we've put in, we never do.

maybe but its unlikely.

We will more than likley have talked to agents more than clubs and this is the "strategy" go buy this guy.

 

[Zanjinho]

Or we've another sterling. the last kid that i recall that we had fans basically on the edge of their seats the second he touched the ball on debut. It was ridiculous how much he was waited for.

hopefully its neither but he's moved from Celtic to get his big shot so we have to cover the club and treat him like any other foreign mercenary. (BTW he will be one of 17 foreign players in europa squad)

Jordon Ibe was after Sterling


Doak has the hardest job in our entire squad; getting in the team ahead of Salah!

 

[johnsonsbaby]

Reports that Ramsay is coming back from loan because he's experiencing problems following the surgery he had. It's such a shame as he looked good in the few games he was involved in (maybe last preseason?).and again completely unforeseen when we bought him.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Jordon Ibe was after Sterling


Doak has the hardest job in our entire squad; getting in the team ahead of Salah!

he was but it was never the same level of "excitment" with him, not in the ground.

The two that stand out above all others are owen and sterling for kids who were 15 or 16 and fans absolutely impatiently waiting for their debut and raving.

I personally had jones, wilson, bajectic and a couple others who never made it on my watch list but some come up and surprise

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Reports that Ramsay is coming back from loan because he's experiencing problems following the surgery he had. It's such a shame as he looked good in the few games he was involved in (maybe last preseason?).and again completely unforeseen when we bought him.

its a different injury from the first one we bought him with.

He's in trouble right enough,

 

[Zanjinho]

he was but it was never the same level of "excitment" with him, not in the ground.

The two that stand out above all others are owen and sterling for kids who were 15 or 16 and fans absolutely impatiently waiting for their debut and raving.

I personally had jones, wilson, bajectic and a couple others who never made it on my watch list but some come up and surprise

You know I'm going to mention Pacheco and Suso