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Transfer Rumours Summer Transfer Window 2023
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Al-Ahli have bid 25m euros for Newcastle's Saint-Maximin. (L'Equipe - in French)
Don't **** around, snap the offer up if it's actually there.
Don't **** around, snap the offer up if it's actually there.
This.
Ruben Neves went for £47m (€55m).
Maxi is the same age and has 3 years left on his contract. So €25m is a joke (for a PIF owned club, anyway).
Get back what we paid for him and £2m a year off the wage bill. Just take it.
Think they'd have to be seen to be "negotiating"... no good selling him for £100m if loads end up complaining and we end up with some form of ban/punishment for it.
They start at £25m, we say £45m end up somewhere in the middle and using evidence of players like Neves etc to back up the process.
Fair enough.
How about they start €25m, we say €250m and we end up somewhere in the middle?
So, just in case any of us understand how this works as Twitter is a void of misunderstanding it seems:
We sell Maxi for £40m - rumoured (R) This is £40m positive in the FFP calculation. Recognised 100% on sale as Maxi isn't on finance. His fee is paid for, but we still pay him a wage.
We buy Barnes for £40m (R)
We amortise the sale of Barnes over 5 years = £8m per year for the FFP calc.
We need to consider the Maxi vs Barnes wage diff. Let's say, for example, it's a £40k a week diff (R)
£40k x 52 = £2.08m a year
Add that to the £8m fee, then that means Barnes costs us just over £10m a year for FFP calcs (R)
Soooo... assuming the above figures are correct, we now have £30m left to do the same thing again. With another player.
Presuming we sell nobody else and buy another player for let's say £60m, we have that fee plus their wages to amortise out over 5 years.
£60m / 5 = £12m a year fee. Wages at let's say £115k a week / 52 = £5.98m a year.
Total increase again is £17.98m (let's call it £18m)
So of the £30m left after Maxi <-> Barnes (R), we could then spunk another £18m a year over the next 5 years and still have £12m left to play with.
£12m remaining, let's sign someone for £35m / 5 = £7m a year on £96k a week * 52 = £4.99m a year. Total, £12m
There are agents fees fees to consider among this, but the club could well just ignore this in the calc as it will hopefully be swallowed by commercial growth elsewhere.
Maxi - good player, but our most saleable asset that isn't key to us moving forward. He's an impact sub lads. I'd much rather do something like the above.
We sell Maxi for £40m - rumoured (R) This is £40m positive in the FFP calculation. Recognised 100% on sale as Maxi isn't on finance. His fee is paid for, but we still pay him a wage.
We buy Barnes for £40m (R)
We amortise the sale of Barnes over 5 years = £8m per year for the FFP calc.
We need to consider the Maxi vs Barnes wage diff. Let's say, for example, it's a £40k a week diff (R)
£40k x 52 = £2.08m a year
Add that to the £8m fee, then that means Barnes costs us just over £10m a year for FFP calcs (R)
Soooo... assuming the above figures are correct, we now have £30m left to do the same thing again. With another player.
Presuming we sell nobody else and buy another player for let's say £60m, we have that fee plus their wages to amortise out over 5 years.
£60m / 5 = £12m a year fee. Wages at let's say £115k a week / 52 = £5.98m a year.
Total increase again is £17.98m (let's call it £18m)
So of the £30m left after Maxi <-> Barnes (R), we could then spunk another £18m a year over the next 5 years and still have £12m left to play with.
£12m remaining, let's sign someone for £35m / 5 = £7m a year on £96k a week * 52 = £4.99m a year. Total, £12m
There are agents fees fees to consider among this, but the club could well just ignore this in the calc as it will hopefully be swallowed by commercial growth elsewhere.
Maxi - good player, but our most saleable asset that isn't key to us moving forward. He's an impact sub lads. I'd much rather do something like the above.
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25m Euros - as quoted in the press.
That's why I said it's a joke if the bid is from a PIF owned club.
The press know **** all. No way will the fee be 25m Euro.
Regardless of the number that the calculation starts with, that's how FFP works for fee and wage amortisation.
A lot of people don't understand this.
Are you trying to tell me that amortisation of fees / wages is done differently, or that £40m (Rumoured) is the wrong starting point?
I get the calculation, my issue is the reported value of the bid. Hopefully it's incorrect, as you say, but even Romano reported €25m.
Yes that's all I was doing really I just noticed you'd spent some time providing a long post and that you'd got the calculation completely wrong.