1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2019
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    12,806
    Is that desperate or dirty old Dan?
     
    #40321
  2. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    17,837
    Likes Received:
    13,160
    #40322
  3. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,799
    Likes Received:
    14,157
    #40323
  4. SaintsCookie

    SaintsCookie Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    142
    Likes Received:
    72
    A private company is entitled to choose who they supply, just as we're entitled to choose what suppliers we use.

    I'm sure Farage is very happy to boycott 'woke' companies... So why should they not be able to boycott him?
     
    #40324
  5. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,799
    Likes Received:
    14,157
    Are you being serious?

    Debanking and deplatforming someone because you don’t like their views is disgusting and frankly very serious.

    If you disagree with someone, you beat them soundly with reasoning. That’s the foundation of democracy.

    It’s funny to me how so many left wing people reveal that they are happy with authoritarian rule as soon as they disagree with someone.
     
    #40325
  6. ......loading......

    ......loading...... 25 undefeated

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    12,757
    Likes Received:
    13,262
    The question could be flipped. Why are you so happy to fight the corner of so many repugnant people just because they sit on the right?

    You have jumped on this story within 20 minutes of it hitting the press. Sky are still reporting these as Farage’s claims. The Telegraph is the worst toilet paper out there - and behind a paywall.

    The big question here is - Did Farage have the £3M? All he has to do is show his bank account balance. Which he has not done.

    If he did not, we are being asked a wholly different question from the one you want us to see:

    Was the bank being asked to keep him on despite not having the due funds? In which case a report on how that would look for the bank seems ok.
     
    #40326
  7. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,799
    Likes Received:
    14,157
    Because I care about truth, justice & democracy no matter who the person is being persecuted. I think it’s a bad sign that people on here are so willing to persecute political opponents. First the freedom truckers when I mentioned that, now farage.
    It seems that people that claim to be tolerant are actually nothing of the sort as they advocate silencing political opponents.
     
    #40327
  8. ......loading......

    ......loading...... 25 undefeated

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    12,757
    Likes Received:
    13,262
    When we have firm evidence, you can stamp up and down. I don’t think there is any.
     
    #40328
  9. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2011
    Messages:
    17,837
    Likes Received:
    13,160
    No one persecuted the bloody freedom truckers. Several of them had a cache of guns and were planning to kill police officers to start a race war, which as you might expect prompted a bit of a police and government reaction, but that is probably just a conspiracy against them because Os cares deeply only about truth as it conforms with his own preferred worldview.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_alleged_plot_to_kill_Coutts_RCMP_officer
     
    #40329
    milton archer likes this.
  10. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2011
    Messages:
    14,799
    Likes Received:
    14,157
    The post above literally used the bullshit argument “they are a private company they can do what they like”.

    The ability to silence, deplatform & de-monetise people because of political opinions is completely wrong.

    I see the EU is passing a law to enforce social media blackouts during protests.

    We are on a slippery slope to technlogy based authoritarianism in my opinion. You may think it’s fine now, because you don’t like Farage. But what about when they use these powers on a protest you do agree with?
     
    #40330
    It'sOnlyAGame likes this.

  11. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2019
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    12,806
    Is this the law which seeks to impose social media blackouts during protests? If not links to verifiable sources please. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/22/technology/european-union-social-media-law.html
    Or this which discusses where blackouts have and may take place in the future. Also what steps governments and individuals can do to circumvent authoritarian controls.
    https://carnegieendowment.org/2022/...ld-citizens-and-democracies-respond-pub-86687
     
    #40331
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2023
  12. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    5,270
    Likes Received:
    6,810
    Isn’t winning top of your wish list?
     
    #40332
    Archers Road likes this.
  13. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2019
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    12,806
    Not.sure that it would but if a hung parliament with Labour the largest party in a coalition that would have closer ties to the EU and electoral reform at the fore I'd be happy with that. A commitment to ending the fifteen year rule for overseas voters is also high on my list.
     
    #40333
  14. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    56,707
    Likes Received:
    63,466

    It’ll take decades for us to rejoin the EU, but we can begin the process of greater alignment pretty much immediately.

    As for Starmer, I certainly have reservations; my views are close to Jeremy Corbyn’s on a whole range of issues. But I’ll judge a Starmer government after 5 years in power, and I won’t be able to do that, unless they win power.
     
    #40334
  15. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    56,707
    Likes Received:
    63,466

    In a free market economy, shouldn’t businesses be free to choose who they do business with?
     
    #40335
    EasyBreezer likes this.
  16. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    5,270
    Likes Received:
    6,810
    I guess I'd include that in 'winning' maybe, depends on the coalition and how progressive it can be
     
    #40336
    StJabbo1 likes this.
  17. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2019
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    12,806
    Let's include reformation of the unelected HoL in the list along with recinding any attempts at curtailing the independence of the judiciary. A commitment to hounding down the corrupt covid fraudsters and the granting of full access and judicial powers to the covid inquiry should get on the manifestos to.
     
    #40337
  18. Lemons and Oranges

    Lemons and Oranges Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2014
    Messages:
    5,189
    Likes Received:
    7,946
    In a perfect world (OK, my idea of perfect), after the next General Election, Labour would be the largest party, with the Liberals/Liberal Democrats holding sway. This would then require Labour to support a change to the election system, to use Proportional Representation, as opposed to 'First Past the Post', so that subsequent parliaments would not be dominated by one or other party, and a degree of reasonableness in government would ensue. I think I'll change my name to Pollyanna
     
    #40338
    thereisonlyoneno7 and StJabbo1 like this.
  19. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2019
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    12,806
    Suit you sir!
    upload_2023-7-19_10-38-51.jpeg
     
    #40339
    Lemons and Oranges likes this.
  20. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2011
    Messages:
    42,991
    Likes Received:
    48,901
    My inclination is to agree with you on Farage, but then I thought about it in a different context.

    If I was applying to be, or was a member of an exclusive private club in London (which is essentially what Coutts is), then would I expect them to check me out, including social media, and make an informed decision off the back of that whether or not they would accept me in? Yes, I would. If it was your regular high street bank, less so, but Coutts is a very exclusive, and very unique case.

    As a more general point though, yes, it's uncomfortable that there's a slightly disturbing creep toward this kind of thing though - be it the baker refusing the same sex cake, or something with a greater outreach. I'm just not sure that this case is it.
     
    #40340

Share This Page