The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Tuesday 4th July)

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Mr Wolves-White said:
That's gone mate. Health and Safety. I kid you now the kids were carrying water to a jug and the egg and spoon has turned to the spoon and new potato race.

You couldn't make this **** up.
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I don't disagree bud. It's shocking. My kids school has a sprint, a relay and everything else is happy clappy.

There is a dad's v kids footie game next week though, which was very compertitive and a good opportunity to kick the little fckers last year <laugh>
 
BillysStatue said:
let's all hold hands and sing while we cross the line together ... I fkn cried the first time I saw this at my kids' sports day in Bucks many moons ago

having just moved to the UK from South Africa at the time, I can tell you that in SA this simply didn't happen, and my 8 year old lad who was a good sprinter was very confused ... school sports was always mega competitive, with trophies, medals and certificates being handed out to winners

you competed in your age group starting at 7,and you were taught to try your best at all times

from U12 if you were the best in your school at say high jump, you would be sent to the Provincial competition (in my case Western Province) where you competed against the best from other schools ... the top two U12 high jumpers would then get their Western Province colours and go on to the national champs, competing against all the best kids from the various provinces ... the nationals winners would then get their Springbok colours, the highest honour

to this day school sports remains extremely competitive, with a schools rugby match still capable of drawing 10,000 crowds and getting airtime on TV ... in fact, right now the annual Craven week schools U18 tournament is being played between the different provinces, and at the end of this tournament a Springbok U18 team is selected ... a number of these kids will probably go on to play for the U20 Junior Boks at their World Cup ... there is also a Craven Week U15 tournament with an U15 Springbok team selected

this applies to cricket, football, athletics, hockey, swimming, etc.

none of this holding hands across the finish line stuff, only healthy competition for those who want to compete and those good enough to rise to the top and potentially have a solid career in sport
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but Billy, how the poor little kids who aren't good at sport cope without a cuddle and a 'well done'?

Or do you just feed the losers to the Tiger sharks to improve the gene pool?
 
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BillysStatue said:
let's all hold hands and sing while we cross the line together ... I fkn cried the first time I saw this at my kids' sports day in Bucks many moons ago

having just moved to the UK from South Africa at the time, I can tell you that in SA this simply didn't happen, and my 8 year old lad who was a good sprinter was very confused ... school sports was always mega competitive, with trophies, medals and certificates being handed out to winners

you competed in your age group starting at 7,and you were taught to try your best at all times

from U12 if you were the best in your school at say high jump, you would be sent to the Provincial competition (in my case Western Province) where you competed against the best from other schools ... the top two U12 high jumpers would then get their Western Province colours and go on to the national champs, competing against all the best kids from the various provinces ... the nationals winners would then get their Springbok colours, the highest honour

to this day school sports remains extremely competitive, with a schools rugby match still capable of drawing 10,000 crowds and getting airtime on TV ... in fact, right now the annual Craven week schools U18 tournament is being played between the different provinces, and at the end of this tournament a Springbok U18 team is selected ... a number of these kids will probably go on to play for the U20 Junior Boks at their World Cup ... there is also a Craven Week U15 tournament with an U15 Springbok team selected

this applies to cricket, football, athletics, hockey, swimming, etc.

none of this holding hands across the finish line stuff, only healthy competition for those who want to compete and those good enough to rise to the top and potentially have a solid career in sport
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It's the education system mate. Cos of work I get to see a lot of grass roots football and they're still keeping the edge in these kids.

It's a handy life lesson not just doesn't stay in sports but has real life applications.
 
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milkyboy said:
I don't disagree bud. It's shocking. My kids school has a sprint, a relay and everything else is happy clappy.

There is a dad's v kids footie game next week though, which was very compertitive and a good opportunity to kick the little fckers last year <laugh>
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My kids school would probably bar that so the little buggers don't cry.

During lockdown I tried to teach the kids football but one of the kids ended up in tears cos I was trying to semi keep to the rules.
 
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Mr Wolves-White said:
It's the education system mate. Cos of work I get to see a lot of grass roots football and they're still keeping the edge in these kids.

It's a handy life lesson not just doesn't stay in sports but has real life applications.
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Agree but with a caveat, on academies v grass roots.

I know a few club academy kids coaches and have had a fair few forthright discussions with them on the merits of it. I’m not a fan - as young as 7 is too young to be getting discarded and deemed a failure. And I’ve seen it. You have the rest of your life to learn about broken dreams.

Grass roots football outside of club academies however is a great experience for kids to bond, learn team work and play competitive sport to a good level

it also helps them appreciate what a bunch of tossers many of the coaches and parents are. Great life skills<laugh>
 
milkyboy said:
Agree but with a caveat, on academies v grass roots.

I know a few club academy kids coaches and have had a fair few forthright discussions with them on the merits of it. I’m not a fan - as young as 7 is too young to be getting discarded and deemed a failure. And I’ve seen it. You have the rest of your life to learn about broken dreams.

Grass roots football outside of club academies however is a great experience for kids to bond, learn team work and play competitive sport to a good level

it also helps them appreciate what a bunch of tossers many of the coaches and parents are. Great life skills<laugh>
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Agreed with you on the academies front. When you think the likes of Harry Kane and Bradley Johnson have been discarded by Arsenal because they weren't good enough then gone to play in the Premier League.
Same goes with Chelsea and Scum who throw players to the side for the hell of it. It's not good for the kids confidence.

Leeds have scouted my Nephew. I'm hoping he will make one day. My 4 year old son is showing talent despite being autistic and if he takes grass roots football up and he makes it I'm making damn sure he gets in to a club like Barnsley or Donny so he has a chance. If he's any good he'll get big clubs snapping at his heals.
 
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Gone are the days when players dropped down a league to finish their careers or go to the states like pele and bobby moore. Now like jota they can go to arab clubs and earn even more money.
 
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