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Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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  1. alcoauth

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    And yes people did fish for a living in rivers also.
     
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    It's good, but those aren't the only places that people came from. What about Beaker culture? Which spread throughout southern Europe and parts of North Africa and is considered by some to have arrived here through migrations of the Yamnaya people from the Caspian Steppe, in what is now Georgia and Azerbaijan.

    Their arrival resulted in significant developments in Bronze Age society, which then of course evolved into Iron Age society which was heavily influenced by the arrival of Belgic culture. British Iron Age society was one of two driving factors in the development of Romano-British society, the pieces of which were then picked up and put back together by the incoming Angles, Saxons, and Jutes.

    That's without even considering the significant maritime trade that was going on from at least the Bronze Age and the long distance trade routes that are known to have brought, if not people, ideas from throughout the Eurasian land mass.
     
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  3. alcoauth

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    Yamnaya aka Indo Europeans ie Aryans? Yes these groups make up modern Europeans in various proportions, it's why we look a little different from the Germans and why they look a little different from the Poles etc. These groups are Proto Europeans if you like.

    Of course a cake exists only a fool would say otherwise! Even though it is made of flour, eggs and sugar.

    All groups in existence had an ethnogenesis whereby tribes combined in prehistory. This is not uniquely British.
     
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  4. The Norton Cat

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    No, that isn't uniquely British, you're right. But, as you say, different groups have combined over time. Why does that have to stop in the Prehistoric? Or the Roman period, or the Anglo-Saxon period? Or the post-war period. Its a natural, arguably essential, part of the development of the human species.
     
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    Disagree completely with the last part. In almost all cases this sort of recombination is brutal and often repelled, sometimes genocidal. In war there is an argument it is natural, the way it is now coming about now is obviously unnatural and forced, and I'm increasingly convinced it will end in bloodshed. The UN and the likes are waining in influence and support, people are rejecting central narratives, Brexit, Trump, Sweden, Hungary, Meloni. Once international orgs are on their last legs they will not be able to to condemn what will happen as it will be happening right across Europe.
     
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    People migrate all of the time mate. For all kinds of reasons. It’s a general concept we should accept it’s change that people struggle with then they adjust. The bigger the change the bigger the struggle but change is also inevitable. Resilient people and communities cope better with it but as we accept a society where a tiny minority have financial resilience and the majority feel under threat with unequal access, the threat emotion is high.
     
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    Sorry might have this wrong but are you saying migration, the mixing of people will cause bloodshed ?
     
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    When a country contains within it, different cultural spheres, it cannot take action without causing friction, add to this existing grievance from both parties and you have a recipe for disaster. Almost all culture war issues are actually placeholders for demographic issues, whether people are conscious of this or not (most are not). The next generation will have distilled this down further, some of their arguments might be incomprehensible to us today but could be winning arguments tomorrow.
     
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    I totally agree ...

    ... some crackpot was on earlier talking about fishing villages in the Pennines <laugh>
     
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    Aye but what were their quotas? :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    So you were saying ‘rivers of blood’
     
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    I see Matty boy went over to the relatives of deceased Covid victims at the end of his part in the inquiry, not surprisingly they wanted nothing to do with him. Does he really not realise just how much people hate him? <confused>
     
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    Screenshot_20230627-221418_BBC News.jpg
     
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    Why the f**k do they always call them spills when they're deliberately pumping shyte, into our waters, on a regular basis.
     
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    Boris Johnson has told the Covid enquiry that he was never PM and that his acceptance speech comments were taken completely out of context. He explained that he went to10 Downing Street for a party and was never told it was a work event.
     
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    ….. and it won’t be long after we start to see the “ water company record profit” headlines. Time to buy some shares - guaranteed good dividends as they concentrate on pleasing shareholders- at least get some of our 40% back
     
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    Time to stop paying would be a better idea, just a matter of time before this happens, the same as the Poll tax.
     
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