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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Hudson92, Mar 24, 2023.

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  1. Prehab26

    Prehab26 Well-Known Member

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    Promotion. That IMO
    I am not a gambling man. I stopped all gambling in 2014. Not a bet since. Best thing I ever did.
     
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  2. WorkyTicketFTM

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    That’s the formation yeah, easiest example with wing backs is Spurs or Chelsea. Make what you will from that :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    If Jobe is the b2b then he would be in there somewhere. Wonder if its Dan Neil who might be the one to leave?
     
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    I've got the formation sorted...were playing with 13 players.....I'll get my coat.
     
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  5. Chunksafc

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    It's a good line up no doubt, but I'd like to see

    ....................Patto

    Hume......Ballard....Batth....Cirkin

    ..................new CDM

    ..........Neil................. Ekwah

    Roberts......... Stewart........... Clarke

    Just looks more solid in the middle, 2 full backs create overloads out wide, 2 No. 8's supporting the front 3
     
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    It's a long season man. Players need to develop. The club don't expect Jobe to be even close to be running the show for 2 years
     
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  7. Prehab26

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    Looks solid but loses the athletic movement out of transition. We are strong on the counter. I think that will stay.
     
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    Rare I disagree with you, and it might just be terminology. Agility is a factor, but after technique. Everything starts from technical ability, at least from a coaching perspective. By technique I mean first touch and the primary play. If your first touch is top class, football is easy, even for lads that arent agile or athletes. It is born out of the old saying the first yard is in the head.

    One of the most agile players I can remember is Wanchope. He was like inspector gadget with legs that could reach everywhere. His first touch was dodgy though and he never had his brain in touch with his feet. Carrick on the other hand, or scholes, were far from agile but my good they were players. Add them both together mind and you get Maradonna...

    I tell players I coach everything is about the first touch. A great one buys you half a second minimum. A good player needs less than half a second to set the next play.

    I am doing 2 sessions a week with a bunch of 6 year olds who are likely academy next season. It is daft I know at this age, but I am.arrogant and dont trust many coaches to do it right. Every single thing we do is about touch and next play being forward. They are a prem league standars group, but it is mad how much they need that fundamental. Loads of dribblers and streey players, not so many 5v5 players.
     
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    Ekwah would be the 6, not sure he’d fit in further up the pitch he’s too slow
     
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    I'm near 50 and still not sure what transition is let alone out of transition
     
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    These are professional players not youth players. Difference is wild. Appreciate the point but big difference.
     
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    Don't have the ball and are moving in a shape that you should be in
     
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    That's the one for me as well. Neil and Ekwah could do some damage.
     
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    I wouldn't say Neil was especially quick either, their roles in my head would be to link it all up, quick passing, clever movement, help win it back high up
     
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    Physicality is definitely important in the game now. Look at City their line up is huge yet obviously very technically gifted. I hate to say it but look at the mags last season, their squad wasn’t great by any means but they pressed like **** from the off. Scored from set pieces, loads of forced errors.
     
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    When i say agile i mean being able to adapt to different formations/positions naturally.

    Technically we are very very impressive so now its to improve tactically so we can switch to different formations easily if its needed

    Love that people have mentioned 3/4 different formations tonight and its hard to disagree with any of them. I think we will see us play several different formations this season
     
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    Id also add that its when you lose the ball and how quickly you get into that shape

    Its where we struggled a lot, especially at home games, teams hitting us quickly on the counter before we get into that shape
     
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    Will forever be appreciative of what KLD has done to this club, I love it
     
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    It was a point of example. My main age group for coaching is U21 now. Same principle applies even there. Technique is everything, athleticism is second. I dont know top academy that thinks differently, but may be wrong. I dont coach in lots.
     
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