For a Tory, John Major is a decent man. Perhaps why they got rid of him
His autobiography was an interesting read, brought up in the east end of London in a prefab, and ending up in bed with Edwina Currie.
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His autobiography was an interesting read, brought up in the east end of London in a prefab, and ending up in bed with Edwina Currie.
Busted flush springs to mind
Over the moon he's gone, cannot believe he's hoodwinked so many. They'll probably be beating themselves up about it now, feel sorry for them.
But outwardly they will double down on what a great statesman he is, and remark that "they are all the same", "Jeremy Corbyn is a terrorist", Diane Abbott etc . Or my own personal favourite "but worraboot Labour"
I expect people will now claim they only went along with the lunatic to 'get Brexit done' and always knew he'd be kicked out once it was forced through.
The reality is that the MPs, on all sides, who voted it through, and the EU who did the same, got it done ...
... even now it's not really done, we still have to abide by endless EU regations.
And of course Johnson voted to stop Sunak's Northern Island initiative. So do the Boris fan club agree with that or, more likely, couldn't care less.
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I think a lot of them wanted "Brexit" without knowing what it meant and what the implications of it were.
I think a lot of them wanted "Brexit" without knowing what it meant and what the implications of it were.
How could anyone know what Brexit would involve, there was snowstorm of 'information' and wild claims being made from all sides. Add to that we had MPs from all sides contradicting each other, voting against the party line and switching between leave/remain.
Cameron was the PM when it 'was done' and immediately washed his hands of it ...
... it was a shambles and people are clutching at straws trying to explain the benefits or saying it'll just take 'one year more' before we're living in a post-Brexit paradise.
It's interesting that you call Starmer 'interesting' instead of 'charisma' or something similar 'cos he hasn't got any charisma or character
John Major 'the grey man' didin't have any either, mind.
Yes I was being ironic.
Although having no big ego/charisma may not help you get elected. Once in office being intelligent and hard working ( both doubts in Bonko/Truss) means you might be a better leader.
Major as you say was know as somebody who found 'peas' interesting, came from a humble background, but on the face of it, for a politician, played a 'straight bat'. Judgement obviously poor in regards to Edwina.
Starmer does appear boring, but again from a humble background, By dint of being a hardworking clever swot, rose to occupy one of the big national jobs in Law Enforcement, ie he has worked for a living.
His relationship with Corbyn and his flirting with some policies.. is a bit of a negative.
But like Angela Merkel (a bit boring as well) in Germany proved, being sure footed and competent in office is a good thing.
The likes of Trump/Bonko are disasters
I think a lot of them wanted "Brexit" without knowing what it meant and what the implications of it were.
I also doubt most people who voted leave could have assumed that the cabinet had absolutely no clue what to do if we left. Or that vote leave based a lot of the campaign on bare faced lies and made up information.
As much a part as Johnson played in the Brext shambles the ultimate blame for me still lies with Cameron. He agreed to the vote, might as well have not campaigned as he massively misread or just ignored the opinion of large swathes of the public, subsequently lost and then pissed off into the sunset.
I voted leave, main reason subsidiarity.
So either a Norway or a May deal, ie still strong trading relations but Brussels has no direct say.
Bonko's deal (or half deal ie Northern Ireland) did not actually even agree what sort of trading deal we had. The hard brexit point of saying we did not want to conform to the EU 'standards etc was nonsense. If you are selling something giving the customer what he wants/demands is rule 101 of marketing.
I think it was the 'oven ready deal' slogan that sold it ...
... In reality there are missing ingredients and loads of packaging to get through.
By the time it's oven ready it'll be past its sell by date.
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Either your auto bias against left leaning liberals is showing through again or you’re jealous others can understand the big words
He did get Brexit done but a quick scan of the state of things and we see it’s probably best he keeps quiet about it.
The last name inspired a Google query. Kingmaker, sexually voracious, or something else?
After publication, Major made a statement saying that he was ashamed of the affair and had privately revealed the matter to his wife. Currie said she had been in love with him for years after the end of the affair,[38] and that he had been "the love of her life".[39] However, only weeks after revealing the affair, she publicly criticised Major, accusing him of sexism and racism and of being "one of the less competent prime ministers".[40]
The admission came after years of denial of any affair while in office and a successful libel action against playwright David Hare, who had said a sexually voracious murderer played by Charlotte Rampling in his film Paris by Night (1988) was an "Edwina Currie-like" figure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwina_Currie
I do remember a lot publicly surrounding the two after the affair was public knowledge, but my thoughts were Currie had sour grape, and he acted with some dignity.
I didn't mind Major, had a sense of decency ... hated her, always seemed deranged and totallt detached from reality.
Have to say l quite like John Major myself. Difficult task to follow in Thachers foot step and her followers, but was his own man. Love his cricket, so probably watching the Ashes like me.
I'll get jealous when it's you correcting my posts and not vice versa.
Anyways, I ran into Ash Sarwar at Ayr's Armed Forces Day today
Don't politicians look weird in real life?
Don't politicians look weird in real life?
As if food inflation wasn't bad enough Brexit looks like it will make things even worse ....
.... https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/nation...tail-post-brexit-border-charge-food---report/
“This Government tax for importing food goods from Europe comes on top of the costs of vets’ and customs agents’ fees, as well as increased supply chain costs, all arising from the post-Brexit realities of trying to service the UK,” he said.
“Forty-three pounds doesn’t sound like a lot but, given that we import thousands of consignments of food goods through Dover every day, it amounts to a border tax costing the industry millions. It is unavoidable that these costs will filter through to consumers.”
.... https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/nation...tail-post-brexit-border-charge-food---report/
“This Government tax for importing food goods from Europe comes on top of the costs of vets’ and customs agents’ fees, as well as increased supply chain costs, all arising from the post-Brexit realities of trying to service the UK,” he said.
“Forty-three pounds doesn’t sound like a lot but, given that we import thousands of consignments of food goods through Dover every day, it amounts to a border tax costing the industry millions. It is unavoidable that these costs will filter through to consumers.”