Match Day Thread General matchday thread.

[luvgonzo]

People use the American sports or rugby as an argument and that's nonsense. It's all great having a break when you check the score in a game that has a score like 50 - 59 but when that one goal gives you a win or salvages a point it simply does not work.

 

[FosseFilberto]

People use the American sports or rugby as an argument and that's nonsense. It's all great having a break when you check the score in a game that has a score like 50 - 59 but when that one goal gives you a win or salvages a point it simply does not work.

I like the way rugby does it ... but it does require the ref being miked up so the crowd can appreciate what is going on ... "Onfield decision is a try ... but can we check the grounding and also whether there was a forward pass in the build-up?" ... footage then shown on screens ... "grounding fine ... no forward pass ... stick with your onfield decision" ... crowd has seen it and understood it ... everybody happy

 

[Diego]

End of the day VAR had taken away goals, the ball now goes in and we wait to see if it's allowed. It has to be instant or within seconds. Same with offsides.

The "clear and obvious error" part has completely gone out the window.

 

[Spurlock]

I like the way rugby does it ... but it does require the ref being miked up so the crowd can appreciate what is going on ... "Onfield decision is a try ... but can we check the grounding and also whether there was a forward pass in the build-up?" ... footage then shown on screens ... "grounding fine ... no forward pass ... stick with your onfield decision" ... crowd has seen it and understood it ... everybody happy

football refs get too much protection and imo that lack of accountability contributes to complacency

 

[Treble]

i said stopping our rivals is the only purpose they serve…that’s how all the rivals treat City.

what difference does it make?

top 4

once upon a time one financially doped club occupied a spot…that became 2…now becoming 3

bro don’t waste my time having to use different words to explain the same thing to you because you will never get it.

I don't like City's success for obvious reasons bcos they're our rivals but I'm not fussed about the financial side of it at all tbh. Way I see it, it's just another challenge you have to overcome if you want to be the best.

What matters is how well your own club is run and how good your own manager is. Truth is we've been nowhere near good enough on both counts, and compared to City neither has any other club. I hate to say it but City are doing what they are bcos they're a well run club with a top manager working in sync.

The challenge is the same as Chelsea under Jose in his prime. Ppl forget, during 2004-2006 when Chelsea went 5 pts clear in October, it was pretty much a given no one would catch them. The only way to overcome that 'raising of the bar' was for us to raise ourselves.

It's also why I don't count on arsenal or anyone else to do it. If I don't want City at the top I'm relying on my club to knock them off their perch. And if we can't then the problems lies there nowhere else.

 

[Diego]

I don't like City's success for obvious reasons bcos they're our rivals but I'm not fussed about the financial side of it at all tbh. Way I see it, it's just another challenge you have to overcome if you want to be the best.

What matters is how well your own club is run and how good your own manager is. Truth is we've been nowhere near good enough on both counts, and compared to City neither has any other club. I hate to say it but City are doing what they are bcos they're a well run club with a top manager working in sync.

The challenge is the same as Chelsea under Jose in his prime. Ppl forget, during 2004-2006 when Chelsea went 5 pts clear in October, it was pretty much a given no one would catch them. The only way to overcome that 'raising of the bar' was for us to raise ourselves.

It's also why I don't count on arsenal or anyone else to do it. If I don't want City at the top I'm relying on my club to knock them off their perch. And if we can't then the problems lies there nowhere else.

Correct, you can have all the money in the world but if you spend it on the wrong manager or he spends it on the wrong players you will get nowhere.
All about making the right decisions rather than how much money you have.

 

[Treble]

Correct, you can have all the money in the world but if you spend it on the wrong manager or he spends it on the wrong players you will get nowhere.
All about making the right decisions rather than how much money you have.

The money helps mate, there's no getting away from that. It gives you the choice to fck it up or not.

My point is I don't give a flying fck how much money another club has. It's all about what my club is doing to overcome every other one regardless.

If all I wanted to do was cry about what other clubs are doing I'd become a Livpl fan.

 

[Libby]

End of the day VAR had taken away goals, the ball now goes in and we wait to see if it's allowed. It has to be instant or within seconds. Same with offsides.

This is the real killer imo, a goal isn't a goal until its been rubber stamped by VAR.

There's loads of other problems with it but that's the main one that I'll never be able to get past and something they'll never improve as they seem to be against time limits.

Quite funny yesterday how many people I heard say "I was all for VAR originally but it's certainly something I won't miss next season"

Ours wasn't even offside ffs. Still persevering with that mm accuracy ****e when the tech isn't that accurate.

Anyway, fingers crossed I get at least one season without it.

 

[Saf]

This is the real killer imo, a goal isn't a goal until its been rubber stamped by VAR.

There's loads of other problems with it but that's the main one that I'll never be able to get past and something they'll never improve as they seem to be against time limits.

Quite funny yesterday how many people I heard say "I was all for VAR originally but it's certainly something I won't miss next season"

Ours wasn't even offside ffs. Still persevering with that mm accuracy ****e when the tech isn't that accurate.

Anyway, fingers crossed I get at least one season without it.

There's no plans to use VAR in the Championship for next season mate

 

[Libby]

There's no plans to use VAR in the Championship for next season mate

Yet...

I'll be happier if we get to kid July and that's still the case. Hopefully so <ok'>

 

[Saf]

Yet...

I'll be happier if we get to kid July and that's still the case. Hopefully so <ok'>

They’d need to be proper consultation and time to allow VAR to be installed at all the stadiums. I really can’t see it happening.

 

[Spurlock]

The money helps mate, there's no getting away from that. It gives you the choice to fck it up or not.

My point is I don't give a flying fck how much money another club has. It's all about what my club is doing to overcome every other one regardless.

If all I wanted to do was cry about what other clubs are doing I'd become a Livpl fan.

I think we all give a flying **** about other clubs

There’s proof of it all over the forum

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

They’d need to be proper consultation and time to allow VAR to be installed at all the stadiums. I really can’t see it happening.

And money and they’d need 20+ officiating teams every Saturday. It’s not happening any time soon.

 

[Libby]

They’d need to be proper consultation and time to allow VAR to be installed at all the stadiums. I really can’t see it happening.

There was talk of rushing through a stripped back version last summer where less cameras etc are needed and think they wouldn't have the offside line tech either if I remember rightly.

 

[Saf]

I think we all give a flying **** about other clubs

There’s proof of it all over the forum

Tbh, Sucky is the only Liverpool fan that I know who has a deep hatred for Pep and City. All the scousers that support Liverpool around here don't give a flying fck about them, whether they win the league or not. They hate Everton and Man Utd with a passion but City are just another club to them and pretty much irrelevant.

 

[Saf]

There was talk of rushing through a stripped back version last summer where less cameras etc are needed and think they wouldn't have the offside line tech either if I remember rightly.

I dont remember it, but hopefully we don't have anything like it anytime soon.

Its great still being able to celebrate a goal as soon as the ball hits the nets.

 

[Treble]

I think we all give a flying **** about other clubs

There’s proof of it all over the forum

I usually just laugh at other clubs tbh.

Yeh there's rivalry but how much money they have or where they got it from doesn't bother me.

Neither do refereeing decisions, pens not given, players not getting sent off or any of that bollox. Pathetic that managers like Klopp who cry about it after matches, like somehow they can't win without it.

 

[Sucky]

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[Spurlock]

Tbh, Sucky is the only Liverpool fan that I know who has a deep hatred for Pep and City. All the scousers that support Liverpool around here don't give a flying fck about them, whether they win the league or not. They hate Everton and Man Utd with a passion but City are just another club to them and pretty much irrelevant.

City are quite irrelevant as a club to me but I can’t help but observe that they were dogshit probably relegation candidates before the Arabs decided to use them as a sport washing project

Same with Chelsea(not the relegation) and now with Newcastle(relegation candidates)

Its a fact

people still concentrating on their own clubs though

you’ll see more posts about me criticising my own club than anyone else’s…however I’m bound to notice what has happened…especially when in the foreseeable all 3 will occupy a CL spot…leaving one for the rest.

I can make that observation whilst still concentrating on my own club but to suggest that everyone should ignore that and just concentrate on their own clubs like Trebs suggests is absurd.

Its an observation well worthy of a conversation…in the mean time I shall concentrate on my own club

see both can be achieved

 

[Bumps]

This is the real killer imo, a goal isn't a goal until its been rubber stamped by VAR.

There's loads of other problems with it but that's the main one that I'll never be able to get past and something they'll never improve as they seem to be against time limits.

Quite funny yesterday how many people I heard say "I was all for VAR originally but it's certainly something I won't miss next season"

Ours wasn't even offside ffs. Still persevering with that mm accuracy ****e when the tech isn't that accurate.

Anyway, fingers crossed I get at least one season without it.

Think you are looking at it the wrong way
It’s a goal till they chalk it off so **** it - celebrate it

if it gets chalked off so what - rewind your celebration lmao