Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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gelders pie said:
Seeing what other people have used to lead to a mindset of “ I”ll try to work and strive for that” - now it’s “ where’s mine ? I’m entitled to that as well , and if it’s not given to me I’ll be unhappy “
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Good point.

What saddens me is the example our children are being given.

We're constantly being lectured on how we should accept people for what they are and not be judgemental ...


... yet almost every TV show is a popularity contest constantly judging people on how they look, sing, cook, bake, behave, etc.

And, with those like BGT or I'm a Celebrity, the 'losers' are held up to ridicule and the public invited to laugh at them. It's obvious that many of those on BGT or X-Factor have mental health issues but they're invited on to be mocked and rejected. The masses look on, howl with laughter and glow with their 'superiority'.

What an example to set before our kids ffs.
 
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The Norton Cat said:
I'm not sure you can put the changes (perhaps decline is a better word) in society down to what any particular government does or doesn't do. I think governments are more reflective of society rather than the other way around. They have some influence over societal trends and attitudes but are ultimately voted in to power because their policies and approach chime with attitudes that are already within society. Personally, I think media (and by this I mean all forms of media- e.g. academic studies of media influence now include social media in addition to the traditional ones) has a much more powerful role in shaping those attitudes.
I don't see society improving because a different political party comes to power. Attitudes in society will only improve when the majority of the population change how they see the world.
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Agree with most of that, but Labour are looking at stemming the media influences on our young kids, so there is hope of a brighter future
 
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Smug in Boots said:
Good point.

What saddens me is the example our children are being given.

We're constantly being lectured on how we should accept people for what they are and not be judgemental ...


... yet almost every TV show is a popularity contest constantly judging people on how they look, sing, cook, bake, behave, etc.

And, with those like BGT or I'm a Celebrity, the 'losers' are held up to ridicule and the public invited to laugh at them. It's obvious that many of those on BGT or X-Factor have mental health issues but they're invited on to be mocked and rejected. The masses look on, howl with laughter and glow with their 'superiority'.

What an example to set before our kids ffs.
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Children used to be encouraged with '' you can be / have whatever you want, if you work hard for it''. Seems parents don't use, or kids don't listen to that ''work for it'' bit.
 
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gelders pie said:
Children used to be encouraged with '' you can be / have whatever you want, if you work hard for it''. Seems parents don't use, or kids don't listen to that ''work for it'' bit.
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Watching talentless dopes like Harry Styles and Love Island tit flashers, becoming overnight millionaires, probably doesn't help ...

... why work hard when it's easier and quicker to 'be discovered'.
 
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Blond Bombshell said:
Agree with most of that, but Labour are looking at stemming the media influences on our young kids, so there is hope of a brighter future
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No, they'll be looking at stemming the ones that don't do what they want. Nothing sinister about that at all.
 
Local elections taking place now, not in my area.

The winners in these elections my guess will be apathy after the past few years siht politics.
 
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This is very true. Its funny how everyone can see this but those that are so inclined blame it on what they see as their opposition. Maybe it means that people are closer together in their views than they realise. Or maybe it means that both 'sides' of the argument engage in the same tactics.
 
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The Norton Cat said:
This is very true. Its funny how everyone can see this but those that are so inclined blame it on what they see as their opposition. Maybe it means that people are closer together in their views than they realise. Or maybe it means that both 'sides' of the argument engage in the same tactics.
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All of column B ;)
 
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I see some analysts are talking about an extrapolation of a hung parliament from the local election results. That's a big surprise, I thought it was a case of how big the Labour majority would be.

How would a hung parliament work in these most divisive of times?
 
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The Exile II said:
I see some analysts are talking about an extrapolation of a hung parliament from the local election results. That's a big surprise, I thought it was a case of how big the Labour majority would be.

How would a hung parliament work in these most divisive of times?
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All three major parties being forced to work together is probably exactly what's needed.
 
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