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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    There is literal video and photographic evidence of Hunter Biden’s crimes. They are all over the internet. There is also videos of Biden being openly racist against Black people.

    Please direct me to a public video of Trump committing a crime, or being racist? You can’t do it because they don’t exist. Worst he’s done is call covid the China virus. Which is in many ways the same as calling the Spanish flu, the Spanish flu.

    Even the “there are good people on both sides” was a hoax and blown out of context by the media if you watch the full Trump interview from a few years ago.

    I have said many times that I am no fan of trump, but many have been totally hoodwinked by a corrupt system. You can only see one side of the argument.
     
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  2. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    There is a vast difference between using one word to make a retaliatory point and the literal emoji celebrations & regurgitating of Democrat propaganda going on
     
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  3. Saints_Alive

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    Him and his father were famous racists with their housing policies. Woody Guthrie even wrote a song about it.

    "Donald became the president of his father's real estate business in 1971, and they were sued by the U.S. Justice Department's Civil Rights Division for violating the Fair Housing Act in 1973; in the case settlement, the Trumps were ordered to take several measures to curb racial discrimination."

    He was taught to be a white supemacist by "Old Man Trump" and his actions, not just words impacted other races.
     
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  4. StJabbo1

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    All of what you claim has been refuted with actual facts from verifiable sources time after time by a number of posters. For ****s sake Beelzebub is less of a corrupt liar than Trump. Repeating the same old alt right maga, bugaboo proud boys qAnon bollocks only increases its bullshit factor.
     
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  5. Saints_Alive

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    Could've come directly from Fox News.
     
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  6. Osvaldorama

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    Real quotes:

    - Sen. Biden said this about then-Sen. Barack Obama: “I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”

    There are many, many more.

    More quotes and REAL evidence of Biden being pro-segregation can be found here:

    https://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jul/15/bidens-racist-history/

    The person you have put on a huge pedestal thanks to the media is not the hero you think he is. I would argue he is much worse than Trump.
     
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  7. StJabbo1

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    Out of the mouth of two face Tucker.
     
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  8. Saints_Alive

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    They obviously have an axe to grind...

    Throughout its history, The Washington Times has been known for its conservative political stance,[3][4][5][6] supporting the policies of Republican presidents Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, and Donald Trump.

    They can talk anyway....

    It has drawn controversy by publishing racist content, including conspiracy theories about U.S. PresidentBarack Obama[20][21] and by supporting neo-Confederate historical revisionism.

    If he said it then fair enough, i'm no fan of Biden, but he's not in the same league as Trump when it comes to being a bad guy.
     
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  9. StJabbo1

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    So you've moved on from laptops and corruption to racism claims, more deflection and whataboutery that doesn't move the spotlight from Trump's ongoing and upcoming criminal charges.
     
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    But today I've remembered that comedy and tragedy are sometimes closely related.

    Vin
     
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    1] In a racially-charged criminal case, Trump continued to state, as late as 2019,[12][13] that a group of black and Hispanic teenagers were guilty of the 1989 rape of a white woman in the Central Park jogger case, despite the five males having been officially exonerated in 2002, based on a confession by an imprisoned serial rapist that was confirmed by DNA evidence.[14][15][16]

    Trump launched his 2016 presidential campaignwith a speech in which he spoke with an extremist view of Mexican immigrants: "They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."[17][18] He said that Justice Gonzalo P. Curiel, who was born in Indiana, should be disqualified from deciding cases against him because "this judge is of Mexican heritage".[19] He retweeted false statistics claiming that African Americans are responsible for the majority of murders of white Americans, and in some speeches he has repeatedly linked African Americans and Hispanics with violent crime.[20][21] During the campaign, Trump used the fears of the white working class voters, and created the impression of global danger of groups that are deemed to pose a challenge to the nation.[22]

    Trump made comments following a 2017 white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, that were seen by critics as implying moral equivalence between the white supremacist marchers and those who protested against them as "very fine people".[23][24] In 2018, during an Oval Office meeting about immigration reform, Trump allegedly referred to El Salvador, Haiti, and African countries as "****holes", which was widely condemned as a racist comment.[25][26] In July 2019, Trump tweeted about four Democratic congresswomen of color, three of whom were American-born: "Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done."[27] News outlets such as The Atlantic criticized this comment as a common racist trope.[28] He later denied his comments were racist, saying "if somebody has a problem with our country, if somebody doesn't want to be in our country, they should leave."[29]

    Trump's controversial statements have been condemned by many observers around the world,[7][30][31] but excused by some of his supporters as a rejection of political correctness[32][33] and by others because they harbor similar racial beliefs.[34][35] Several studies and surveys have shown that racist attitudes and racial resentment have fueled Trump's political ascendance, and have become more significant than economic factors in determining the party allegiance of U.S. voters.[35][36] Racist and Islamophobic attitudes have been shown to be a powerful indicator of support for Trump.[37]
     
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    Checkmate
     
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  13. StJabbo1

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    Unfortunately, we know nothing, however relevant, will be taken in and considered by Os he's been taken by the dark side.
     
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  14. Schad

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    Literally any time is going to be, by definition, before a primary. In effect you're suggesting that Trump should be permanently above the law.

    Did not happen with Biden in office. Trump was in office.

    Literally nothing to do with Biden. Didn't even release until after the 2016 election.

    Did not happen with Biden in office. Trump was in office.


    This isn't merely throwing **** at the wall, it's the saddest, runniest **** humanly imaginable. Please: at least Google when events happened before suggesting these things.
     
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  15. saintrichie123

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    The evidence that Trump has committed this particular set of crimes is very strong. Namely, Michael Cohen -- Trump's lawyer -- was charged by the Trump administration's DOJ with violating campaign finance laws in this scheme. He entered a guilty plea and sentenced to three years in federal prison. There is considerable evidence that Trump directed him to do so, including evidence that Trump tried to delay the payments until after the election so that he could renege on them entirely.
     
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  17. Billy Bates

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    And again, barely anything on the SNP debacle that seems to unfolding. I thought this was the Politics thread, yet barely anyone seems to post anything other than American politics or constant barrages against the incumbent government.

    Perhaps for this thread to be taken seriously by those who are not left leaning it needs to be far more nuanced.

    I have literally no idea about who to vote for at the next GE, perhaps someone could explain the difference in approach that Labour will offer from the Tories, and how that will be good for a middle aged man who is comfortably well off? Surely that would be better informed than the constant slagging off of the government and the constant boring bollocks about something on the other side of the world?

    Any takers?
     
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  18. Number 1 Jasper

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    Our press sicken me .

    What Trump did or didn’t get up to makes no difference to me .

    Still it helps stop people seeing things like this !!!!!


    Woman worried about energy bills died of hypothermia
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    Barbara Bolton died of pneumonia brought on by profound hypothermia
    An 87-year-old woman who did not heat her home because she was worried about high energy bills died after she was found suffering from profound hypothermia.

    Barbara Bolton's inquest was told she had ignored pleas from her family to heat her terraced house in Bury.

    She was discovered by her grandson at her kitchen table, unable to speak, on 11 December and later died in hospital.

    A conclusion of misadventure was recorded by the coroner in Rochdale.

    The court heard that while Mrs Bolton's family had encouraged her to put her heating on and told her not to worry about the cost, she would not listen.

    The coroner described how medics found she had a body temperature of just 28C rather than a healthy reading of 37C.

    She was taken to Fairfield Hospital in Bury but died of pneumonia brought on by hypothermia on 5 January.

    Senior coroner Joanne Kearsley told Mrs Bolton's son Mark: "What comes across clearly from both the hospital statements and from your own is how much, as a family, you cared and looked after your mum.

    "I think it was evident from the hospital that whatever had happened at home wasn't because the family weren't encouraging her to put her heating on or telling her not to worry.

    "It's clear she was fixated on the worry of putting her heating on no matter what anyone was saying to her."

    The inquest heard hospital notes recorded that Mrs Bolton had deliberately not turned her heating on "for fear of high energy bills".

    'Remarkable woman'
    In his statement read to the court, Mark Bolton said his mother had only given up work as a Tesco pharmacy assistant at the age of 82 and medical evidence presented to the court said she had hardly ever visited a GP.

    Mr Bolton said family members spoke to her every day and visited her often.

    He described how she would put a gas fire on in her living room when people visited and would only use heaters that her family had bought her when they were there.

    He told the hearing his mother was "old school" and said: "It was my way or no-one's way with my mum."

    Recording a conclusion of misadventure, the coroner said: "She seemed like
     
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  19. The Ides of March

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    No! We don't slag off the SNP because they are a bit left!! Let's just stick to hammering the Tories and any other obnoxious beings such as Putin, Berlusconi, the DUP, and obviously the Ginger Wonderkid!!
     
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  20. Billy Bates

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    If its all the same, no thanks. Id rather be educated than force fed.
     
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