Official Secrets - Film

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Saw this film the other night and tbh forgotten the lies of Blair which took us to war.
It showed how we are lied and led by not very nice people.
I find it impossible to believe Labour MPs voted against a parliamentary enquiry that he misled the house. Current MPs are all over, rightly, Partygate and I wonder why back then they weren't so keen to nail Blair.
After watching this brilliant film I hold politicians in less regard than ever.

 

[realred1952]

I find it impossible to believe Labour MPs voted against a parliamentary enquiry that he misled the house. Current MPs are all over, rightly, Partygate and I wonder why back then they weren't so keen to nail Blair.

thats the driving force behind the party the paymasters! they have a job that says unless you show some action then there is no point in your job! [ jobswoth's !] ALL THESE STRIKES union bosses still draw full wages workers dont. Bear in mind each union member pays a weekly contribution to the labour party .. funds the MP's in a small way but pays for the union bosses salaries mostly.

In the 70's when it slipped out that you could pay less union contribution by electing to not pay into labour funds the union rep was inundated with the majority of the 1000 workforce withdrawing it.



note .. nurses loads on the street you would think the hospitals would be bare of nurses ...? well comment made to me majority of the nurses on the pickets were on days off! Supplier of the comment only lost a couple of hours pay [ part of shift ] as all the other days were days off! Also mentioned in her Hospital there were quite a few agency staff!

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

I know some think that David Icke is off his chops and an "off the scale" conspiracy theorist.. and wouldn't give time of day to listen to what he has to say.. But I'm a believer of listening to many views and then make my own mind up about things.......and if we're honest, it's no different to listening to a politician or as bad the main stream media.. but there are many of his theories that can give food for thought on and make sense....IMO always worth a listen with an open mind......
We are controlled by governments, that are globally controlled.....

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[Angelicnumber16]

Saw this film the other night and tbh forgotten the lies of Blair which took us to war.
It showed how we are lied and led by not very nice people.
I find it impossible to believe Labour MPs voted against a parliamentary enquiry that he misled the house. Current MPs are all over, rightly, Partygate and I wonder why back then they weren't so keen to nail Blair.
After watching this brilliant film I hold politicians in less regard than ever.

He and Bush should stand trial for war crimes

 

[Angelicnumber16]

I know some think that David Icke is off his chops and an "off the scale" conspiracy theorist.. and wouldn't give time of day to listen to what he has to say.. But I'm a believer of listening to many views and then make my own mind up about things.......and if we're honest, it's no different to listening to a politician or as bad the main stream media.. but there are many of his theories that can give food for thought on and make sense....IMO always worth a listen with an open mind......
We are controlled by governments, that are globally controlled.....

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Our banks, interest rates, and general prosperity, or lack of it right now, is also controlled by forces outside of this country. It's all wrong, on every single level

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

Our banks, interest rates, and general prosperity, or lack of it right now, is also controlled by forces outside of this country. It's all wrong, on every single level

The woke society would love this!!.....IMO spot on!!!

https://davidicke.com/2023/03/16/cl...f-the-bbc-david-icke-dot-connector-videocast/

 

[Angelicnumber16]

The woke society would love this!!.....IMO spot on!!!

https://davidicke.com/2023/03/16/cl...f-the-bbc-david-icke-dot-connector-videocast/

I can't argue with the logic or the facts being relayed here.

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

I can't argue with the logic or the facts being relayed here.

The worrying thing is................some people hate to know the truth or would ever give his voice time of day...in fear of being called out as a conspiracy theorist.....But the fact is.....most of his views make common bloody sense......the more you think we are all being played, the more you know what we are being fed by the BBC & co (main stream media) is utter nonsense & tactics to distract what's really going on..
I heard on LBC last night that inflation has stayed high because of the price (shortage) of tomatoes & cucumbers!!!! Some people will actually believe that ffs!!

 

[Angelicnumber16]

Watch GB News
I gave up watching BBC, Sky etc and their manipulated news a couple of years ago

 

[invermeremike]

Although I believe my memory is still intact I must have missed this story due to my absence from the U.K. and I found it very interesting to say the least. There have been vast gaps in my recent English history as over my years in Canada there were times when the news out of the U.K. have been weak in their coverage over here on the other side of the pond. If all, or most, of the facts are true, or even close thereto, then it does bring an answer for me as to why at the mere mention of Tony Blair during my subsequent winter trips to the Canary Islands I was met with some very juicy and fiery responses. I think it just goes to show how we are fools to believe anything told to us by politicians and this looks to be the case on the WMD claims by Bush the Idiot and Blair the Clown. Dubya wanted to finish off Iraq as a legacy to his father who, once Saddam was beaten, packed up his troops and went home but his stupid son was more than prepared to lie to all and sundry to get the Excited States back on the war bandwagon.

The Old Bailey finale whereby the Crown Prosecutor decided not to carry the case forward after spending many thousands of pounds preparing for the court date just about says everything about the porkies being told in the very dark hallways of power, and to hell with the truth and the peoples.

 

[Angelicnumber16]

The media in particular hate Trump and whilst I think he’s a very flawed human being, I also genuinely believe he did want to drain the Washington Swamp and kick the ass of every career politician and nobble the corrupt ones
He was publicly humiliated for daring to say that Covid came from a Chinese lab leak, but even the FBI are now saying that’s the most likely source
The Germans openly laughed at him when he told them they were way too reliant on Russian gas, which it turns out they were, and he was also publicly chastised for wanting to build the wall on the Mexican border
Now America have had over 2 million illegals enter the country in the past year, undocumented, just like here.
A perfect human he’s not, far from it, but he seems to get the big calls right despite the howls from the Democrats
Would there be a war in Ukrainian now if Trump was still President ? I honestly don’t think there would be.

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

The media in particular hate Trump and whilst I think he’s a very flawed human being, I also genuinely believe he did want to drain the Washington Swamp and kick the ass of every career politician and nobble the corrupt ones
He was publicly humiliated for daring to say that Covid came from a Chinese lab leak, but even the FBI are now saying that’s the most likely source
The Germans openly laughed at him when he told them they were way too reliant on Russian gas, which it turns out they were, and he was also publicly chastised for wanting to build the wall on the Mexican border
Now America have had over 2 million illegals enter the country in the past year, undocumented, just like here.
A perfect human he’s not, far from it, but he seems to get the big calls right despite the howls from the Democrats
Would there be a war in Ukrainian now if Trump was still President ? I honestly don’t think there would be.

Unfortunately the media managed to inseminate their influenced garbage into the citizens of the US.....
As you say, not the perfect human, but the best leader they had in decades......No conflicts under his tenure..created 1000s of jobs etc....but those in control doesn't want a prosperous society...

 

[Angelicnumber16]

Unfortunately the media managed to inseminate their influenced garbage into the citizens of the US.....
As you say, not the perfect human, but the best leader they had in decades......No conflicts under his tenure..created 1000s of jobs etc....but those in control doesn't want a prosperous society...

Not for ordinary citizens like you and I they don’t, that’s for sure

 

[realred1952]

I made it to the 5 min mark talking about money being theory borrow a £100k .. it doesnt exist!!! pay back interest that doesnt exist !!! if you dont pay it back "this theoretical" doesnt exist "loan" then they take away your belongings that you own!!!! [ house ... bought on a loan ..car bought on a loan .. uni fee's bought on a loan! ... white goods bought on a loan ! ... ]

.. well sorry that is the biggest load of kiwi fruit and a bannana Ive heard for yonks.

Would there be a war in Ukrainian now if Trump was still President ? I honestly don’t think there would be.

That is an unknown on the face of it, however, they Russians have a history since the USSR broke up of invading others and and assisting others to take over and cleanse [ genocide ] in other countries so likely would have still happened.. ...
I liked Trump at the time he was in office did a lot of good but got to big for his boots and started to become "over reactive" and non democratic, proved that when he had riots invading government buildings .. not by direct orders but throwing out the crumbs for militants to do implement it.

Putrid not Russia is the problem, when the USSR broke up / East Germany revolted as did loads of other countries, [ some less bloody] it was a time of the basis for human collectivity. The world failed, the despots grabbed the opportunity to dictate what certain [evil self centred? ] directions they would take their countries. [ Putrid / Saddam / Assad/ Khomeini / Taliban / etc ] History is rife with similar instances "all the different empires" that have come and gone .. Romans / Huns/ Ottoman/ Nazi's etc's etc's.
There will always be wars .. thats why countries arm themselves and invent / reinvent weaponary !

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

I made it to the 5 min mark talking about money being theory borrow a £100k .. it doesnt exist!!! pay back interest that doesnt exist !!! if you dont pay it back "this theoretical" doesnt exist "loan" then they take away your belongings that you own!!!! [ house ... bought on a loan ..car bought on a loan .. uni fee's bought on a loan! ... white goods bought on a loan ! ... ]

.. well sorry that is the biggest load of kiwi fruit and a bannana Ive heard for yonks.



That is an unknown on the face of it, however, they Russians have a history since the USSR broke up of invading others and and assisting others to take over and cleanse [ genocide ] in other countries so likely would have still happened.. ...
I liked Trump at the time he was in office did a lot of good but got to big for his boots and started to become "over reactive" and non democratic, proved that when he had riots invading government buildings .. not by direct orders but throwing out the crumbs for militants to do implement it.

Putrid not Russia is the problem, when the USSR broke up / East Germany revolted as did loads of other countries, [ some less bloody] it was a time of the basis for human collectivity. The world failed, the despots grabbed the opportunity to dictate what certain [evil self centred? ] directions they would take their countries. [ Putrid / Saddam / Assad/ Khomeini / Taliban / etc ] History is rife with similar instances "all the different empires" that have come and gone .. Romans / Huns/ Ottoman/ Nazi's etc's etc's.
There will always be wars .. thats why countries arm themselves and invent / reinvent weaponary !

You only watched 5 mins, that’s why you didn’t understand it or understand the context..
to me it made perfect sense..his theory regarding how banks work and credit are spot on!!
I knew that you wouldn’t like his views (not listen ) as you are happy along with the masses to believe what you are told by the politicians and media..
As for Trump, no wars or conflicts involving the US under his tenure, unemployment down, was on the ball rekindling it’s manufacturing and was pretty spot on identifying where the Covid virus came from.. of course the thrust of BS that came from the media publishing him quoting bleaching people was ridiculous.. It’s not what he said.. but hey ho Headlines attract the masses..

 

[AshtonRed]

You only watched 5 mins, that’s why you didn’t understand it or understand the context..
to me it made perfect sense..his theory regarding how banks work and credit are spot on!!
I knew that you wouldn’t like his views (not listen ) as you are happy along with the masses to believe what you are told by the politicians and media..
As for Trump, no wars or conflicts involving the US under his tenure, unemployment down, was on the ball rekindling it’s manufacturing and was pretty spot on identifying where the Covid virus came from.. of course the thrust of BS that came from the media publishing him quoting bleaching people was ridiculous.. It’s not what he said.. but hey ho Headlines attract the masses..

Where would Ukraine be if Trump was still in power?, genuine question I don’t follow US politics, but my understanding is he was questioning US funding of NATO, also wasn’t he not keen to accept the last US election result ?

 

[realred1952]

I knew that you wouldn’t like his views (not listen ) as you are happy along with the masses to believe what you are told by the politicians and media.

you couldnt Know! what my reaction would be! I dont need to know how banks and finance work .... part of my job was as licensed finance operative a 2 week course!

If you listen to what he says how he says it and the implications of what he says it does not make sense. 3 is a magic number, when I went on courses where the lecturer was paid [ in 80's ] £500+ a day! the one point he made was the importance of the number 3 . Repeat something 3 times and even the most "simple minded / forgetful people" will will remember it ........... even better if you get them to write it down at least once ! Worked for me as I made a lot of money as a area sales training manager!

PS that was not the only use of 3! ....

As for Trump, no wars or conflicts involving the US under his tenure, unemployment down, was on the ball rekindling it’s manufacturing and was pretty spot on identifying where the Covid virus came from.. o

No issues here then, but would point out that the thoughts were there was a Chinese "accident" at a lab met an untimely end ... Before Trump made his comment .. Trump being the first? to actually accuse the Chinese of it! media and some individuals are good tailoring "news/ info" to suit their agenda! The facts get a little twisted dont they!

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

you couldnt Know! what my reaction would be! I dont need to know how banks and finance work .... part of my job was as licensed finance operative a 2 week course!

If you listen to what he says how he says it and the implications of what he says it does not make sense. 3 is a magic number, when I went on courses where the lecturer was paid [ in 80's ] £500+ a day! the one point he made was the importance of the number 3 . Repeat something 3 times and even the most "simple minded / forgetful people" will will remember it ........... even better if you get them to write it down at least once ! Worked for me as I made a lot of money as a area sales training manager!

PS that was not the only use of 3! ....


No issues here then, but would point out that the thoughts were there was a Chinese "accident" at a lab met an untimely end ... Before Trump made his comment .. Trump being the first? to actually accuse the Chinese of it! media and some individuals are good tailoring "news/ info" to suit their agenda! The facts get a little twisted dont they!

You haven't listened to take in the context, regarding the interest etc.....Hey, but I don't have any reason to convince anyone that doesn't want to hear a different point of view....I'm quite happy not to be fobbed off by the big banks and corporates in their way to control the masses..

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

Where would Ukraine be if Trump was still in power?, genuine question I don’t follow US politics, but my understanding is he was questioning US funding of NATO, also wasn’t he not keen to accept the last US election result ?

Who's to know, maybe not at war......it's hypothetical.. Where was the help during the Crimean conflict in 2014? As for the US election......touch of rigging from all sides IMO..

 

[Angelicnumber16]

It’s noticeable that the Democrats go after Trump on a misdemeanour but Hilary and Hunter Biden get off Scot free for far worse behaviour which was actually criminal acts
Rumour has it that the Biden family have lots of financial interests in Ukraine too.
As for the last US election, I’m not saying it was stolen, but there was clearly something very wrong with it when in certain towns there were more votes cast then there are people living there
If that ma a conspiracy theorist then so be it.