Match Day Thread Reading v Hull City

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On Saturday his arm was stuck out
Do you remember at Tottenham when Elmo stopped a cross with his thigh and the ball flew up and hit his arm? Amazingly a penalty was awarded.

That would be a penalty now. The argument back then was that it was at point blank range and clearly wasn’t deliberate but that doesn’t matter now.
 
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That would be in a natural position, it’s not making the body bigger and would have been blocked anyway.
I dont think protecting your balls or face is classed as a natural position
but there appears to be a body of opinion which says that if it's instinctive it's not a penalty
 
As time goes on and you start to judge him more as a left back rather than with the bias of a centre back ‘doing a job’ he’s starting to look worse and worse there.

He’s our best centre half in my opinion and should be playing there regardless. I wonder when we’ll start seeing Guardiola shafting all his best players into makeshift positions and leaving all his strikers on the bench in a team full of midfielders.
He’s our best left back too!
 
I dont think protecting your balls or face is classed as a natural position
but there appears to be a body of opinion which says that if it's instinctive it's not a penalty

What they’re working with is basically if the hand is outstretched or not. Tucked in > natural, outstretched > unnatural. There are a couple of situations that differ, such as supporting hand on the ground when falling.

Just found the Malcolm penalty shout, should indeed have been a pen but considering Malc was the only one who appealed for it, and only a half arsed appeal at that, no other city players saw it so would have to assume the officials didn’t see it either. VAR would have given it though for sure.
 
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I suspect it's mainly the dosh, a referee in the Championship gets a retainer and then £600 a game if they're the actual referee (rather than an assistant). In the Premier League they get a £40k retainer, then £1,150 a game if they're the actual referee. Even the top ones only get about £70k a year (though this can go up to about £200k a year if you get to the elite level and referee Champions League games, where you get £5,500 a game). It's not much compared to the average wage of even a Championship player.
Good Lord...

'Only' £70k a year? They'll be queuing up behind the nurses at foodbanks shortly...
 
Good Lord...

'Only' £70k a year? They'll be queuing up behind the nurses at foodbanks shortly...

Only, yeah, for being in such a mass marketed high profile industry that is bloated with money, and getting dogs abuse from thousands of fans up and down the country every weekend, you could take your 70k, roll it up rather tightly and shove it up your arse. **** that.

Also having to put up with the players, managers and the journalists.
 
it might not be quick enough for you but that's what they do in the Championship

That might be what they are supposed to do but they seem to flag much later than they used to. I'm thinking of times when a forward is chasing a through ball and the lino doesn't raise his flag until he has touched the ball. (Even though he was in an offside position when the ball was played through)
 
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Only, yeah, for being in such a mass marketed high profile industry that is bloated with money, and getting dogs abuse from thousands of fans up and down the country every weekend, you could take your 70k, roll it up rather tightly and shove it up your arse. **** that.

Also having to put up with the players, managers and the journalists.

Prem refs dealing with the mass abuse while officiating multi millionaires eh

70k is very low considering the requirements to be able to be a prem ref
Absolute specalist role
 
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Only, yeah, for being in such a mass marketed high profile industry that is bloated with money, and getting dogs abuse from thousands of fans up and down the country every weekend, you could take your 70k, roll it up rather tightly and shove it up your arse. **** that.

Also having to put up with the players, managers and the journalists.
I'd rather be refereeing in a professional match which has protection than on a park pitch
I wouldnt care about the abuse the top referees get
I'd concentrate on being part of a sport I loved and getting reasonably well paid for it
When I was 11 I used to go to East Park every Sunday morning and watch the games
One day the referee didnt turn up and they asked me to be referee
The players were fantastic with me and gave me a fortune at the end of the match as well!
 
Only, yeah, for being in such a mass marketed high profile industry that is bloated with money, and getting dogs abuse from thousands of fans up and down the country every weekend, you could take your 70k, roll it up rather tightly and shove it up your arse. **** that.

Also having to put up with the players, managers and the journalists.
You tend to find,if you do your job correctly,abuse is fairly infrequent?

As for clogging up the sigmoid colon junction with used bank-notes?? I'll leave that one to 'Big Vern' when he makes his comeback:emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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That might be what they are supposed to do but they seem to flag much later than they used to. I'm thinking of times when a forward is chasing a through ball and the lino doesn't raise his flag until he has touched the ball. (Even though he was in an offside position when the ball was played through)
they are only offside if they are interfering with play
before that they are only in an offside position which isnt an offence
 
I'm sure you are right but isn't it bizarre that a forward chasing a through ball could be deemed not interfering with play?
you have a point there
do you remember that Man Utd goal a few weeks ago?
was it a pass to Fernandes (in an offside position) and he didnt touch it but was very near it and followed the ball and Rashford burst in and shot and scored?