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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    Yes, a simpler format, scheduled earlier would suit a lot of people.
     
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  2. Star of David Bardsley

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    The spike in viewing figures is a one-off from people tuning in out of curiosity. Without the presenters and analysis, what’s really the point of it? Highlights are available online 20 minutes after the match.
     
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  3. kiwiqpr

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  4. Stroller

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  5. Staines R's

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    Why do they come here then ?
     
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    I've heard that POV before. From a raving lunatic from Cumbria while at uni in London. He could find no fault at all with what they said it was just the fact that they espoused Socialist values for pure Germans who would of course be the privileged lords and masters over all others.
     
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  7. Sooperhoop

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    Perspective...

     
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    The famously left wing Mail were big fans of the Nazis so it checks out. Well done Kiwi.
     
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    Of the relatively few that do, plenty of reasons. Fleeing persecution, poverty, war, employment opportunities, natural disasters to name a few.

    Or, you know, to get a free mansion in Chelsea and unlimited benefits.
     
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    War and famine in Albania ?

    Must have gone downhill since I was there, drinking in the Lady Diana Pub
     
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    I didn’t mention famine.

    We approve 53% of Albanian asylum claims.
     
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    You could say we decline 47% of claims also
     
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    Yes, you could. Presumably though given we have a government trying to be as hostile as possible on immigration there’s a good reason for approving the majority of cases from Albania.
     
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    Good point…..would be interesting to know on what grounds people from Albania have their asylum claims approved.
    Sadly I can’t be arsed to look it up as I’m watching “The Last Of Us”
     
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    It's not all about Albanians, although it's convenient to single them out.

    Since 2018, the numbers of arrivals are...

    Iran 17,912
    Albania 13,458
    Iraq 12,766
    Afghanistan 10,778
    Syria 6,173
    Eritrea 5,358
    Sudan 3,763
    Vietnam 2,030
    Egypt 1,603
    Ethiopia 1,185
    Other 8,210
     
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    But in this case we actually are talking about Albanians. And according to you figures they are quite a significant group
     
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    Yes they are, but they are too readily used to suggest that they comprise the majority and throw doubt on the legitimacy of all those crossing in boats.
     
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    So are we not allowed to mention them ?

    On another point, and I may be reading it wrong, but I don’t get your figures ?
    A quick google showed me that there have been at least 135,000 detected trying to enter the uk illegally since 2018.
    Isn’t that way beyond the figures you’ve quoted ?
     
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    Of course you can mention them, I just thought I'd provide some perspective.

    The figures I quoted were Home Office numbers for small boat arrivals, not sure where your quick google number would have come from. By the way, it's not illegal to cross the Channel in a boat and it's not illegal to claim asylum. At least, not yet.
     
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    it's illegal for migrants to knowingly enter the UK without a visa or other permission
     
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