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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Bozz, Jun 17, 2011.

  1. Milk..

    Milk.. Well-Known Member

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    Which to me sounds like "Don't expect someone like Bellingham, Mount, or Rice. Expect someone you've never heard of."

    "Wisely" from an owner to me means someone cheap who might be underpriced and might turn into a star in the future. Not someone who will solve the problem now.
     
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  2. Solid Air 2

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    well just because players aren't "big" names doesn't mean they aren't exactly what we need and vice versa after all Pogba was a "big" name signing .
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I think thats a bit overstretching.

    mount fits the profile of distressed asset thats the right age and right contract situation to be bought for a pice thats in our bracket and wages we won't care about overly.

    Bellingham has always been a pipe dream unless theres a spectacular release clause in there.

    forget rice. he is vastly overpriced despite his contract situation and will be going to whoever jumps the queue when it forms.

    you are right though, they will always sign for value.

    Nunez and gakpo as exmaples. real come on and its a profit, end of.

    thats how we work.
     
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    Exactly.....and Bajcetic wasn't :biggrin:
     
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    We bought lots of decent players under FSG, sometimes for pretty high fees. Alison, VVD, Nunez.
    I think we'll get some decent players in this summer, but just don't expect Chelsea levels of spending, that's all they're saying and I'm alright with that, because I don't think we need as many players as some may do.

    They're just managing expectations.

    We don't need any for the front 3 (who are generally the most expensive), we certainly need a couple in midfield and 1 or 2 in defence (still don't really have an option at RB).
     
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    I think that's spot on. We spend big when we need to and when Klopp has identified who he wants. We don't do extravagant and neither should we. As pointed out above, it's the unearthed gems (as much as the odd big spend on one key player) that have got us where we are with Klopp. I like the idea of developing and growing a team rather than a set of ready-mades.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    if you are writing out the first 11 next season and we have either of fabinho or Henderson in it we have not down the job.

    when klopp looks back at his bench he cannot see gomez, matip, fabinho, Henderson as the main go to people.

    it won't be bad if he is looking at diaz, jota, carvalho, doak as attacking options but cb cover is just not up to top 4 levels and cm cover is lacking and slowing down
     
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    Largely agree with that except Fabinho could well have turned a corner, as the phrase goes. He played really well at the weekend.
     
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    I agree completely. Just saying, we will probably not be spending as much as we hoped this summer.

    His wage demands would put him second only to Salah. I suspect that might put him out of our reach... Unless that's all a smoke show and he'd take less than what's being bandied about. (Which is possible, rags being rags after all)
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    thaigo 200k a week. done and should go.
    Henderson on what 160k
    frimino 180k
    etc
    etc

    mounts age means if the fee is reasonable the wage won't be an issue.
     
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  11. Solid Air 2

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    He is reputedly wanting £240kpw from Chelsea and therefore presumably would be at something in that range from anyone else .
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    has to be. its hardly unreasonable ask given the state of chelsea's madness.

    sterling got 350k off them
    koulibaly 290k
    Kante is on 290k
    James is playing less than him and on 250k a week.

    i strongly suspect a lot if the new buys are being paid under the table as well

    why should a key player up to tuchels sacking accept less than their right wing back???
     
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  13. Solid Air 2

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    because they rate James higher .
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    maybe this is why they are in the ****.

    I could have told them there was a reason no big club took koulibaly in his prime.
     
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    not sure of the point of the Koulibaly bit but are you saying that Mount should be rated higher than Mount ?
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    no.

    I'm just saying mount wants parity with another cheslea academy graduate who's not even a forward player.
     
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  17. Solid Air 2

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    imo he is far more easily replaced the downside of James is he appears to be injury prone .
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Well, it's more about if you pay one that (irrespective of what you or I might agree on their deserving it) then as a club they cannot expect the next player along won't ask for the same when they play just as big a part in chelsea's first team.

    next lfc player who's up for a renewal who's "vital" to out side will want 300k a week cos salah gets it.

    luckily we got all the vvd types done before salah and have clearly decided mane could go rather than get that. now firmino is off.
     
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    which is why i have my doubts regarding Mount unless he accepts less
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    he dominated casimero who looks like he ate another man utd player and was liming round.

    fabinho might be feeling a bit fitter and match sharper but he's not able to keep doing this year on year. let's not kid ourselves but let's support him to deliver this season and let future take care of itself.
     
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