Yep, mostly old stock and stuff they had lying around. It's something like 3% of their annual military budget.
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Yep, mostly old stock and stuff they had lying around. It's something like 3% of their annual military budget.
It depends whether you consider Crimea to be Russian soil or not. Russia would, of course.
Ukrainian government warns only return to 1991 border will bring peace | Evening Standard
We should not support Ukraine in taking back Crimea by force.
Again we’ll have disagree that it’s “just old stock”
Ukraine weapons: What tanks and other equipment are the world giving? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62002218
Was that the bloke on the Today programme, a representative of the Ukrainian Govt, who said ‘there are no good Russians’? It was a brilliant joke, I couldn’t understand why nobody laughed.
1997-2010 Ukraine leased the rights for the Russian Black Sea fleet to use Sevastopol as its base. Perhaps there is a compromise on Crimea there going forwards, although there is now such hatred of Russians by Ukranians as a result of so many civilian deaths, the idea of the two countries sharing anything is probably naive. Only the replacement of Putin with a more liberal Russian leader would do it, and that looks a distant prospect.
Most of these people arrived as children in the UK and became criminals there and not in Jamaica - they have spent most of their lives there and are British in all but name. As a result of their deportation you split up families and leave countless children without a father - thereby successfully preparing the next generation of mixed up kids who can join the criminal hordes. Among those due to be deported there are,admittedly, some serious cases, but there are also people who have not reoffended in over 10 years, or got done for lesser offences many years ago. Britain cannot simply deport its problems in this way - why should Jamaica accept back somebody who first became a criminal somewhere else ? They are your responsibility. What do you seriously think a 40 year old can do in Jamaica if they haven't been there since they were 10 ?
"British in all but name". I hadn't heard that legal status before. They are not British citizens, but Jamaican nationals, and to be deported, you have to commit serious crimes. Jamaica accepts that it has a legal duty to accept them back. They are sent back on criminal court orders.
Of course, if they get British citizenship, they won't be deported, and after Windrush, care is taken to assess whether a person is eligible. Those on the plane, including the man who has now committed a murder, apparently weren't eligible, Incidentally, his son got 22 years and 10 for robbery.
To belong to a nation in ''all but name'' means to have spent most of your life there, which may not be a legal definition but is certainly a moral one. There were/are some of the 50 who last committed crimes many years ago, and were, presumably punished then - if so then the slate is clear because you cannot, by international law, be punished for the same offence twice. I see the logic of deporting criminals but if you are going to do it then do it immediately after the offence not years later.
Tell that to the Australian government who send 100s of criminals back here some of whom went to Australia as toddlers
So you would deport rather than jail someone for murder
Money saver at least
You could probably empty a prison or two of foreign criminals
No, I didn't say that Kiwi. Criminal courts have the power to recommend deportation as part of the sentence. The result is that a prison sentence is shorter than it would otherwise be followed by deportation - this is what happened with Boris Becker. What I said you couldn't do was to give someone the complete sentence and then deport them years later. There must be a period of time of continuous legal residence after which time deportation is not possible.
suspension seems a bit over the top
Four Wakefield pupils suspended after Quran damaged at school
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The copy of the Quran was damaged in an incident at the Wakefield school on Wednesday
Four pupils have been suspended from a West Yorkshire secondary school after a copy of the Quran was damaged by students.
Wednesday's incident at Wakefield's Kettlethorpe High School happened when a copy of the Islamic text was brought in by a Year 10 pupil.
Head teacher Tudor Griffiths said the book remained intact and there was "no malicious intent" from those involved.
He held a meeting with concerned community leaders on Friday.
Independent councillor for Wakefield East, Akef Akbar, called the meeting after being contacted by people calling for more information.
He said reports the Quran had been burnt or destroyed were untrue, and he had inspected the book himself during the meeting.
Mr Akbar said he had been told the book had been taken to school as a dare by a pupil who lost while playing a Call of Duty videogame with other students.
While at the school it sustained a slight tear to the cover and smears of dirt on some of the pages.
Mr Akbar said he understood it had been kicked around on the school premises - a claim denied by the school.
Head teacher Mr Griffiths said in a statement: "We would like to reassure all our community that the holy book remains fully intact and that our initial enquiries indicate there was no malicious intent by those involved.
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Some of the pages were smudged with dirt, Mr Akbar said
"However, we have made it very clear that their actions did not treat the Quran with the respect it should have, so those involved have been suspended and we will be working with them to ensure they understand why their actions were unacceptable.
"This morning, we met with our local Muslim community leaders, local councillors and police to share all the information we currently know, the action taken and the immediate steps we have taken to reinforce the values and behaviour we expect from every member of this school community to ensure that all religions are respected."
A spokesperson for West Yorkshire Police said they were "liaising" with the school.
"Initial enquiries have confirmed minor damage was caused to the text and officers are continuing to work closely with the school," they added.
Four Wakefield pupils suspended after Quran damaged at school
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The copy of the Quran was damaged in an incident at the Wakefield school on Wednesday
Four pupils have been suspended from a West Yorkshire secondary school after a copy of the Quran was damaged by students.
Wednesday's incident at Wakefield's Kettlethorpe High School happened when a copy of the Islamic text was brought in by a Year 10 pupil.
Head teacher Tudor Griffiths said the book remained intact and there was "no malicious intent" from those involved.
He held a meeting with concerned community leaders on Friday.
Independent councillor for Wakefield East, Akef Akbar, called the meeting after being contacted by people calling for more information.
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IMAGE SOURCE,GOOGLEHe said reports the Quran had been burnt or destroyed were untrue, and he had inspected the book himself during the meeting.
Mr Akbar said he had been told the book had been taken to school as a dare by a pupil who lost while playing a Call of Duty videogame with other students.
While at the school it sustained a slight tear to the cover and smears of dirt on some of the pages.
Mr Akbar said he understood it had been kicked around on the school premises - a claim denied by the school.
Head teacher Mr Griffiths said in a statement: "We would like to reassure all our community that the holy book remains fully intact and that our initial enquiries indicate there was no malicious intent by those involved.
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IMAGE SOURCE,AKEF AKBARImage caption,
Some of the pages were smudged with dirt, Mr Akbar said
"However, we have made it very clear that their actions did not treat the Quran with the respect it should have, so those involved have been suspended and we will be working with them to ensure they understand why their actions were unacceptable.
"This morning, we met with our local Muslim community leaders, local councillors and police to share all the information we currently know, the action taken and the immediate steps we have taken to reinforce the values and behaviour we expect from every member of this school community to ensure that all religions are respected."
A spokesperson for West Yorkshire Police said they were "liaising" with the school.
"Initial enquiries have confirmed minor damage was caused to the text and officers are continuing to work closely with the school," they added.
I can remember being suspended from school for smoking and this habit was only harmfull for myself whereas this would have been seen as hurtfull and insulting for other pupils, don't see how anyone can have anything against the suspension.
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Fmr Health Secretary Alex Neil has claimed that Humza Yousaf asked for permission to miss the 2014 vote on the gay marriage bill due to being “under so much pressure from the mosque”. Alleged govt business was arranged as an excuse. At least Kate Forbes has been brave & honest.
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no blasphemy laws in the uk yet
would they have been suspended for not maliciously damaging a bible
or any other book
I would hope that they would be suspended (or other appropriate action) for any malicious damage of any book which is important for other people.
Head teacher Mr Griffiths said in a statement: "We would like to reassure all our community that the holy book remains fully intact and that our initial enquiries indicate there was no malicious intent by those involved.