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Will this get done ??

  • Yes absolutely

  • Not a chance

  • Some sort of hybrid plan

  • Built somewhere else


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The whole point is that they're all divorced from reality. We could all come up with plans based on "if I was Acun/Leader of the Council/had a bank balance the size of Elon Musk" and a browse of Google Maps.

Credit to Acun and Tan for having ambition and wanting to improved facilities, however, we know the figure of £25m for a smaller stadium is ridiculously low. We know there's no way that you can build anything on Walton Street and still have Hull Fair on there. We know that any other site in the boundaries of Hull is going to have massive problems for a relocated Fair. We know that the current Cottingham training site is not adequate and does not project the levels of professionalism that a Championship club needs to do, let alone one with Premier League ambitions. I'm also pretty sure I read somewhere that there are covenants in place for the Cott training site that would make it difficult to use the land for other purposes, eg housing, that may mean it is not as valuable as you may think in terms of selling to reinvest elsewhere.

I think the whole proposal is an opener to get a discussion going about the future of the entire West Park area, the club facilities, the future of FC, with the Council(s), FC, and the general public. I'd be interested to know for example that if the Academy facilities at Bishop Burton are good, what are the barriers to actually moving the mens team training up there? Is that a realistic option to explore?

Acun might know some Turkish construction magnate
 
It’s literally perfect, even has accommodation buildings if we’re going for a proper campus style.

Is it realistically big enough for what we need/want to do? Just had a quick look on Google maps and not sure it is, plus to much would need demolishing. West hull villages is where we should be looking imo as it opens up the rest of Yorkshire etc for academy players
 
It’s literally perfect, even has accommodation buildings if we’re going for a proper campus style.

I can only imagine its more expensive to acquire that site and do the necessary work. There's only one very small road leading into the lawns as it is currently. You could argue it would need more work than Walton St
 
Acun has said that he wants everything at the stadium, he said that from day 1. Why is everyone trying to find a resolution away from the stadium? IMHO I think that if the council don't let him then he'll do the same as the Allams and threaten to move, to a site that will be big enough to fit everything he wants there, but he'll have the balls to do it with his billionaire friends backing him.
 
Acun has said that he wants everything at the stadium, he said that from day 1. Why is everyone trying to find a resolution away from the stadium? IMHO I think that if the council don't let him then he'll do the same as the Allams and threaten to move, to a site that will be big enough to fit everything he wants there, but he'll have the balls to do it with his billionaire friends backing him.

Acun has said or done a fair few things in the early days that ended up backfiring. As plenty have said, the area around the ground is quite limiting.
 
Is it realistically big enough for what we need/want to do? Just had a quick look on Google maps and not sure it is, plus to much would need demolishing. West hull villages is where we should be looking imo as it opens up the rest of Yorkshire etc for academy players
Syd Smith School as I’ve said huge fields First Lane great access both ends , loads of expansion space , even a private hospital and clinic a few hundred yards away . But set the kids footie teams up too that are already there .
 
Syd Smith School as I’ve said huge fields First Lane great access both ends , loads of expansion space , even a private hospital and clinic a few hundred yards away . But set the kids footie teams up too that are already there .
A lot of those fields around it are now taken up as flood alleviation, basically big sumps ready to take flood water, so those parts are definitely out.
 
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Syd Smith School as I’ve said huge fields First Lane great access both ends , loads of expansion space , even a private hospital and clinic a few hundred yards away . But set the kids footie teams up too that are already there .

Not it will be viable now with it being a flood plain. The best site I can think of anywhere around here is the current Hull Ionians site, Brantingham Park. It's not big enough as is, but farm land on one side of it could be used to extend ( it's been used for first team training before, many years ago, not that that makes any difference ). It's easy accessable, planning would be easier ( you'd like to think ). Imo it just fits with everything we need and from what I know, theirs appetite to sell from some involved.

There is also plenty of other parcels of land around that area that could also be looked at imo. But I'd say Brantingham Parks would be my pick
 
I can only imagine its more expensive to acquire that site and do the necessary work. There's only one very small road leading into the lawns as it is currently. You could argue it would need more work than Walton St
The road into the Lawns is exactly that, the access road. The approach road is Harland Way and Northgate. 300 static caravans and lodges turn up every September for the trade show so the roads can handle the traffic. Once in the site there's a huge carpark where buses pick up and drop off. Far better access than Walton Street and straight onto the A164 Humber Bridge to Beverley Road.
 
Costello's in Hull, as are the playing fields/pitches next door, which would also have to be used (Anlaby Park is in Hull, but Anlaby Common isn't).

East Park's just a pain to get to, particularly at the moment.
NIMBY. Anyway, it has to be near Gemmels so it doesn’t disrupt my pre match drink.
 
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It sounds like Acun is set on extending the current site, which does make sense for a lot of reasons, ie we actually have a stadium there, breathing life into Anlaby Rd, near to Gemmels for my pre/post match drink, etc.
Also I have no idea what stage it is at, but there are ambitious developments outlined for around the hospital, including a train stations, etc. Through economies of scale, it would make sense for both parties to merge these developments? The only thing probably preventing this would be the strip of land in between which the greater crested newts own. I am fairly sure that strip of land would solve the issues around the lack of space for Acun’s development. Surely someone can sit down with said newts and renegotiate, with an offer of relocation? They could demand a high price. I am sure it was considered when the stadium was first build, but surely there’s a way?
Such a merged project presents a possibly never to be repeated opportunity to redevelop the whole west side of the city centre upto Walton St. Any land left between the hospitals and the city centre (particularly along Anlaby Rd) would become very attractive to private developers.
Surely merging these two projects would be a part of the ongoing discussions?