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Match Day Thread Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by PleaseNotPoll, Dec 29, 2022.

  1. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    And that’s why we need a different manager because Conte clearly isn’t a project manager, just like Jose he’s a finishing touch one that needs a heavy chequebook to sign a few world class players that completes an already primed squad.
     
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  2. Spurlock

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    We were walking in 2015....we were running in 2018 then the time for sprinting arrived and Levy didn't do his bit and hid behind the stadium.

    Now we are saying this dickhead needs to start the cycle again...

    What's the point? He won't deliver next time when it matters most either.
     
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  3. Left on the Shelf

    Left on the Shelf Well-Known Member

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    Let's go for another former Chelsea manager (Tuchel), 'cos that's worked out well so far....<doh>

    Avram Grant may fancy the gig....<laugh>
     
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  4. "Thanks for that Brian"

    "Thanks for that Brian" Well-Known Member

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    Under the current regime, we'll end up with someone even more defensively minded than Mourinho, Nuno and Conte....


    ...Welcome David Moyes!
     
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  5. Billy The Spur

    Billy The Spur Well-Known Member

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    Well, changing the manager, again, will achieve nothing under ENIC, it may improve things for a short while but long term it will be rinse and repeat, unless there is significant change. The bed wetters will have us believe Conte should be replaced, but Rome was not built in a day (ask Norbert, Pep etc), and Conte`s CV suggests he deserves to be backed, only when he has a squad he is happy with should he be judged fully.
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

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    Well, that was ****ing ****, wasn't it?
    Oh well, at least Conte's accepted responsibility and we'll see a different approach next time, eh lads?
     
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  8. Blue and White

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    just back and whereas I would normally read back to see what has been said , I'm diving straight in:

    That was one of the worst experiences I have had watching Spurs live.
    They played awful ( among the worst games I've seen ) and the atmosphere was horrible . Full of New Year Day tourists.

    I'm sure , like was sung, a lot are blaming Levy . Levy didn't play awful football. A world cup runner up goalkeeper handing over another goal ( for years now I've wanted him replaced ).
    Fans wanted Perisic and Bissouma and Spence. Levy supplied. Conte doesn't play one and the other two are not contributing enough. Don't blame Levy.
    We have 11 players who went to the WC finals- supposed to be top players. I didn't see them today.
    In two recent friendlies , Conte plays Doherty on the left. Today, he could have played him there and Perisic up front with Son and Kane.
    Supposedly a top manager brought in by Levy. A manager that everyone was happy with.
    I don't understand and feel awful.
    Good night.
     
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  9. Spurlock

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    Exactly....said it years ago...put the money into scouting then if that's the vision because pretending to be big doesn't work for us under ENIC

    Be Dortmund or Ajax and structure the club for that aim

    ENIC can't do that because they know **** all about football

    I ****ing hate this club because after 20 years of Levy n co we are not a football club anymore...we are another business portfolio for ENIC.

    Our stadiums biggest nights are for non football events yet I should still support...hmmm.

    we are no football club I'm proud of anymore. We are embarrassing and clubs come from nowhere and over take us. We are an organisation that hosts events and we play football now n again too
     
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  10. Spurlock

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    The bed wetters forget that this same Conte had us finishing 4th last season when we didn't expect it and it was with scintillating football...they all loved it. He probably had focus and was riding on the false promises made by the club of signing true quality as required.

    That bald bastard needs to stop buying players 2 levels below what the manager wants

    But it won't be happening

    Skriniar is a perfect example of Levy's intentions. Wanted him 3 seasons ago for a very good reason ...every transfer window he's linked...every transfer window it seems his price drops. Now his contract is running down and the apologists are already making excuses such as well we won't get him because one of the 'bigger' clubs will get him

    You see the stage where someone with ambition would have made this purchase but in typical ENIC style we instead purchased some player on loan who can't get a look in at his parent club.

    That's Levy in a nutshell...how many more examples of this clown do people need
     
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  11. SarrMan

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    Those who want levy out (which I’m not against as would love to just rip the whole club up and start again), how would you suggest we do that?

    tickets still sell out for each match, saw loads of adverts for chilli peppers in the summer so that’s another 70,000 plus drinks, nfl will sell out again and probably another AJ fight at some point. They’re not going anywhere.
     
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  12. Spurlock

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    It's not rocket science imo

    Just abuse him every game ...let the poison start seeping into the fabric of the club. Make this a **** experience for him...I don't really have the exact answer but I know what causes animosity and what kind of actions make your intentions clear to owners.

    Just because I feel as though that is the change required doesn't mean I know how to achieve it on a personal level but I have seen clubs sold and purchased and owners bullied, abused and hated out.
     
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  13. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    Levy is not ENIC. There's been considerable conjecture as to what the Lewis family are going to do with their majority share ownership in the years ahead. The Lewis shares were recently (a couple of months ago) transferred into the ownership of a trust.

    Now might be the best time to pressure them into changing things...
     
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  14. Billy The Spur

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    People need to stop going, a stadium with just 15K fans in it will be very embarrassing for Levy and will hit him in the pocket, where it hurts the most. While the stadium is full and raking in the profits for ENIC, they will be happy and going nowhere. Of course it will be impossible to achieve though, as there will always be plenty of tourists around to snap up tickets. I don`t even get pis*ed off when we lose anymore, I have accepted we will never be a success on the pitch under ENIC, the whole club is just so meh and has been for years.
     
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  15. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    In fairness 2018 was more on Poch than Levy and Ally Gold did even confirm that.

    The cycle does more or less need to be restarted though whether we like it or not, more so now that Son looks like he’s on the slide and then even more than that as Kane might be off, if he leaves we need a huge rebuild because you need about 3 top players to replace his impact.

    That’s why I think it’s pointless talking about trophies or titles right now when we’re on a downward plight and potentially on the verge of losing our two best players either via age or departure.
     
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  16. Tilly'sowner

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    I don’t necessarily want Levy out. Gawd knows he has tried pretty much everything he can. He has bought players at £60m, he has hired supposedly the top managers, vastly improved the infrastructure and so forth.

    I just can’t see what else they can do to change things. After 30 years of this with only one Mickey Mouse trophy to show for it.

    Conte is not here for the long term. He hasn’t signed a new contract. He is most likely demanding £100s of millions to be spent in new players before committing for longer. This is not sustainable. We aren’t Man City who can spend a billion on their squad. We were warned by Chelsea fans about Conte. We didn’t care but it’s all coming true.

    who could replace him? No idea but I agree with spurlock that Kane and Son are holding us back from progressing. Time for them to go.
     
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  17. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    As I’ve said you can’t force owners/ chairmen out.

    Newcastle fans tried it for about a decade. Gooners have been trying it with the Kroenke’s for years. Utd been trying it with the Glazers for god knows how long.

    Owners only sell up when they want or when they get an acceptable offer, it doesn’t matter one iota if fans chant during games or stage protests, we’ve seen proof it does absolutely nothing.
     
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  18. Billy The Spur

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    It`s perfectly sustainable under new owners, it would be under ENIC also if they had any kind of ambition to win silverware, there are plenty of clubs with similar revenues to us who back their managers and win trophies, and guess what, they are all still here.
     
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  19. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Aurier scoring and playing well for Forest is just a further kick in the bollocks that we managed to downgrade on him with Doherty and Emerson, lol.
     
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  20. The Changing Man

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    It all seems so easy doesn't it convince fans not to go and force out the current owners and the new people will bring instant success.

    I know the ENIC/Levy are certainly not perfect owners and I, like most fans would like silverware - But don't forget before ENIC Spurs qualified for Europe just 5 times via their league position, we are currently on our 14th successive European campaign all via league finish - The most consistent we have ever been in terms of performance in what is the bread and butter, the top division of English league football.

    Who knows new owners could take us backwards it does happen and as bad as things are now - They were much worse when the likes of Christian Gross and Gerry Francis were in charge and we regularly finished bottom half of the league and won just as few trophies.
     
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